An important new article is posted at City Journal:
Former mechanic Anderson felt the effects of low-wage immigrant competition in his old line of work. “I used to sell parts to body shops, and I knew Americans who were making $20 an hour repairing dented fenders,” he says. “Now, 95 percent of South Central L.A. body-shop jobs are held by recent immigrants making $7 or $8 an hour.” Says Joe Hicks, former chair of Los Angeles’s Human Relations Commission and now head of the nonprofit Community Advocates: “It’s hard to find a black face on a construction site or in a fast-food restaurant around here any more. People from the black community have noticed.”
Read it all. It’s a big article which covers economic and political competition, Hispanic racism, and the growing trend of black citizens waking up to the garden path their leaders have been trying to lead them down.
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10 ft, that was lame. It wasn’t even funny.
G Stone- your position is not simple. It is amazingly both convoluted and inane.
“The study cited by Zimzo is probably solid information. It is also irrelevant.” It is irrelevant to you perhaps, but it is ceratinly not irrelvant to the original post given that the article Joe has provided does exactly what you describe, “Combining these two seperate groups as one for the purpose of political discussion is not only misleading but an absolute waste of time”
Thanks for helping to further my point which is that the article blurs legal and illegal immigration in an attempt to further a specific agenda.
“The dishonest use of data is propaganda. It serves no good purpose other than too further an aggenda through the use misinformation.” In what way has this data been misused?
I would say that in this article the almost exclusive use of “perceptions” and gross generalizations, tempered only by a couple of studies to which no reference is provided, not even a proper title (could anyone find one for me please?) truly serves no other purpose than to advance an agenda through the use of misinformation.
Jack – perceptions can indeed be hard to overcome but that is no reason to throw in the towel and abandon facts.
The Manhattan Institue has an excerpt from what looked to be a really interesting discussion on immigration in the US:
http://www.manhattan-institute.org/html/cb_50.htm
It highlights the difficulties in even discussing the issue, which are clearly apparent here.
“Jack – perceptions can indeed be hard to overcome but that is no reason to throw in the towel and abandon facts.”
I entirely agree. Do not dismiss the evidence that illegal immigration reduces wages for unskilled labor, just because some study find no such result of LEGAL immigration. Even Adam Smith wrote that an influx of unskilled worked reduced the wages of those workers.
Well, your not gonna hear me say that we should increase the flow of illegal immigration!
Laura:
I was speaking to the study introduced by zimzo in which he (it) was comparing apples to oranges.
The point being that often those in favor of apples bring in studies or data pertaining to oranges in an attempt to justify their position.
way to go! you took one word from one comment on one blog and derived, “Liberals make their choices based on feelings, conservatives by thinking”
typical Jack, basing arguments on grand generalizations!
Marshmallow,
Actually I think he came to that conclusion a long time ago, based om multiple instances of feeling of logic. Laura’s observation simply tripped a memory. I think you are extrapolating boldy at this point as well.
typical Jacob
Either way G. Stone, you made a good case against the article.