Hold Your Nose - Or Drink Till Obliterated?
February 9th, 2008 by joe
A question of tactics: Many are now saying, I will surely need to hold my nose to vote this November. Hold nose, vote for John McCain.
I am not sure, however, that it will be that simple.
A friend noted the other night: “I am saving a bottle of champagne for the election, which I will drink BEFORE voting, so that I will be able to vote for John McCain.”
Here’s how I plan to play it. Work late on the Monday before election day, to win some time the next day. Begin drinking around 8:00 pm on Monday. Spend Monday night watching at least 14 hours of the latest DVD set of the series “24″ while carefully imbibing up to three bottles of cabernet sauvignon. At around 9:00 am Tuesday morning, walk to the precinct voting location - which is about a mile away - and then vote. Vote for whom? Well, we’ll see, We’ll just see. Maybe it will be John McCain. Maybe. Maybe it will be a write in. This is where the conscience will kick in, as the conscience always does at 10:00 am after a long night of drinking.
I think this is the best chance the Straight Talk Express has to get my vote in November.
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February 9th, 2008 at 4:57 pm
Joe:
Ae they say, the balls in his court. If he remains the John Mccain from 2000 forward, getting shot in the ass will not help. If he discovers a bag of conservatives on the road to Damuscus and is smart enough to realize the contents of that bag is his salvation only then will a couple bottles of vino do you any good.
February 9th, 2008 at 5:12 pm
Joe: May I suggest a mixture, merlot, carbernet and Pinot Noir? Please eat some cheese too, don’t bake any brie though, you will be in no shape to handle an oven.
I might make similar plans for Nov., although it will involve a case of Bud Light and pizza.
February 9th, 2008 at 8:05 pm
Could it be that America is finally moving more to the middle?
Are some of you really that ignorant that you can’t see people are sick and tired with the divide?
February 9th, 2008 at 8:44 pm
My Dear uncle :
No and no with the exception of those foolish enough to buy what Obama is selling. Substance my friend substance.
February 9th, 2008 at 9:01 pm
It is you few who think the radical right wing conservative Republican Party has substance.
If you haven’t noticed, more and more people are realizing your faults and it’s about time.
God bless America, the one created for ALL…… not just a few.
February 9th, 2008 at 11:04 pm
Joe Bud,
You’ll probably be too smashed to notice,but a quick and sobering moment will dash your plans.
There are NO write-ins during primaries in Virginia. Go vote for Hillary. She’s easier to beat in November. Obama scares the hell outta me, because his presense overcomes what actually lies below. Hillary is at least a constant bitch, and sure to alienate even a great deal of democrats.
February 9th, 2008 at 11:07 pm
Uncle Sam,
I agree with your point of view. I started down the road as an extreme conservative. The older I get, the more I just want these guys to learn how to work together to actually get something done, and not just point fingers and bicker.
Conservatives have a limited slate of important items. Mine is very close to theirs, but much lengthier.
February 9th, 2008 at 11:56 pm
No write ins?! Well that means either stay home or vote for Ron Paul. Damn.
Obviously, if I vote for Hillary I will exclude myself from being part of any Republican delegation or committee - but that cow already left the barn because I am not going to be part of any Republican entity this year.
Adios.
My first LCRC meeting was Paul Protic’s first as chair, and my last was his last as chair. How poetic is that.
February 10th, 2008 at 1:00 am
10cm
My biggest problem with her shrillness is if she does win the White House, unlike Obama she has a decent chance of getting some seriously bad ideas put into law.
Obama sounds like JFK but his ideas are pure LBJ. No one wants another ‘great society’. The Gingrich congress wrote the ‘Welfare Reform Act’, and Billy boy signed it. That was some bipartizanship I can appreciate. Anything that gets that derided in the press as terrible and unfair must be good. So Obama won’t get any traction there.
Hillary wants some radical stuff, especially in healthcare. With the Clintonista’s at Media matters and elsewhere in the press she ill get this guff made into the law of the land.
Face it, we will see some seriously bad legislation under her. The Republicans have shown a serious lack of spine ever since they took the house and senate.
February 10th, 2008 at 11:03 am
Having made it 1/2 way through Goldbergs new book Liberal Facism, might I suggest that Obama although sounding like JFK is really 1/3 Woodrow Wilson, 1/3 FDR and 1/3 LBJ. Students of history know full well there is nothing new in Mr Obama’s third way. Mr. Obama and others on the left knowing that Americans in general are ignorant of their own history let alone that of the rest of the world are free to present warmed over socialist dogma as something new.
February 10th, 2008 at 11:05 am
Uncle Sam;
Aren’t you supposed to be on a poster somehere ?
February 10th, 2008 at 12:07 pm
10 feet tall and Bulletproof said:
Obama scares the hell outta me, because his presense overcomes what actually lies below.
Don’t be afraid of change, embrace it. What we have now it isn’t working. Face it; this country needs a new direction, and although Obama might be stretching what he will actually be able to accomplish, at least he’s bringing hope.
February 10th, 2008 at 12:09 pm
my last line should have read,
At least he’s brings hope not fear…
US
February 10th, 2008 at 6:53 pm
U.S.
Change. Change in what direction? Change for what/which reason? Ron Paul talks about change as well. I do not think his idea suits you so well. Are you afraid of RP’s idea of change?
February 10th, 2008 at 7:04 pm
Auntie Am,
Radical right wing? That is what you call conservatives? And you want us to move toward the middle of what-socialism? That’s all we need. Another socialist with like agenda. When did you have your last flashback?
February 10th, 2008 at 7:12 pm
10 proof,
Dictator John can get things done because he can reach across the aisle. Getting things done isn’t the hard part. Getting things done CORRECTLY (sensible legislation where the country and all within it benefit) is the hard part. I don’t want just change and I am not willing to accept anything just for the sake of getting something done. You are getting beaten down and giving in. Don’t you have any core values? They aren’t negotiable!
February 10th, 2008 at 9:23 pm
“…at least he’s bringing hope.”
Twenty two years in the Army taught me that hope is neither a tactic nor a strategy and is a very dangerous thing to base your plans on.
And to echo others, what sort of change is he proposing?
Tax rates are relatively low by historical standars. Will he propose that they be increased on the wealthy? Who exactly are the wealthy?
The current education system cranks out unacceptable levels of functional illiterates. What sort of change does he propose? Does he have the strength to take on the NEA and the educaton bureaucacy?
Despite the reforms of the 90s, the welfare system is a disgrace and perpetuates the Great Society plantation system that has all but destroyed the black family as well as a significant percentage of white families. What changes does he plan on implementing to change it?
Etc.,etc.
Speaking of change is sounds nice in a political campaign, what I want to know are the specifics of this “change” that everyone is supposedly demanding, how much it will cost, and who is going to pay for it.
February 10th, 2008 at 10:20 pm
Uncle Sam, you lost me right there. I’m 100% for someone who shares 80% of MY vision. Obama or Hillary will never do. I just want the lighterweight to come forward.That’s the only use I have for them.
It’s the internet, ACTivist, or I’d have put my right foot aside your left cheek for that one. How DARE you assign MY values as less important than yours. But, that’s what the Far Right does.
They are now showing all of regular America what spoiled children act like when they do not get their way. I do not know how many years you’ve co-existed in society, but life is compromise.If you don’t meet in the middle, you complicate your own life.
I have principles, and they guide me. When there is a conflict, I refuse to march over someone else to keep them.I do try to stay along the path to my principles, but I also visit reality quite often. THAT is something that’s severely lacking in crackpots like you.
February 10th, 2008 at 11:16 pm
Guys / Gals, you had a conservative, his name was Bush, he served 7 years and what did that get you? As a nation we went backwards, please don’t tell me your minds are so closed you can’t see that?
I am a recovering republican that has his tail between his knees right now. I say take down the labels, right wing, left wing, radical, liberal and let’s all meet in the middle.
This country which I (and 4 others in my immediate family) have fought and died for did so to represent ALL, not just a few. So please, erase the past mistakes, let’s start fresh, otherwise I don’t know why in Gods creation I and many went to war…
PLEASE wake up…. change is needed!
February 10th, 2008 at 11:20 pm
Ted,
I’m sure you voted for Bush twice, how much has that cost you, the future and how will the next generation pay for it?
February 11th, 2008 at 1:19 am
Sam (who is apparently speaking to us from beyond the grave),
We THOUGHT Bush was a conservative. You can imagine our shock when we discovered yet another politician had lied to get elected.
February 11th, 2008 at 3:15 am
All,
Jack is making the point that all are overlooking. We thought we were voting for a conservative. We found out otherwise. Spending money like a drunk, expanding the role and size of guv’mint and now short circuiting the law. Bush is not a conservative. He is not a Democrat, but that is faint praise.
This is not an issue of compromise, or maturity. It is an issue of never taking anything for granted again. The Republican party under Bush lost its base in 2006. Thy still have not figured it out yet.
They lost conservatives. They alienated the security hawks, they lost the law and order types, they lost the budget hawks and the federalists. This is not a 80% of my view aligns with candidate X thing. The percentage of agreement is less than that, and it is a question of how will the candidate implement the policy. Bush has shown that he is not to be trusted with regard to the border. The justice department arrests border patrolmen who are doing their job, and has ceased the formally routine inspection of worker green cards. Our current front runner does not appear to be disposed to do any better.
The current front runner is flawed in his formulation of both security and budget. Not controlling the border negates bombing the h*ll out of someone in a cave in some Stan in Asia. Vetoing earmarks will not stop the erosion of our tax base, and the inflationary effects of free health care for illegals, free education for illegals and childcare now, and etc ….
Thumbing your nose at the EXISTING immigration law is not humane. Thumbing your nose at existing law is not conservative. Thumbing your nose at existing law corrupts the social fiber. It ain’t all relative.
This is a question of both principal and not giving the benefit of the doubt. Republicans do not deserve being given the benefit of the doubt on anything anymore. The Reagan era is over.
February 11th, 2008 at 11:11 am
10 proof,
“It’s the internet, ACTivist, or I’d have put my right foot aside your left cheek for that one. How DARE you assign MY values as less important than yours. But, that’s what the Far Right does.”
Far right? When you are willing to “compromise” your freedoms away then you give up your core values. Never said my values were more important or different then yours. Don’t know how you came to that conclusion. I do know that when you start compromising on your freedoms that they are slowly eroded away until you look back and say “what happened?”
It isn’t a new direction we need. It is an old direction that got lost thru change and is now morphed into a monster. People will embrace old ideas as new because they haven’t been around for awhile. I want the old ideas back. The ones that worked and strenghtened our country. They should never have been let go of but, if you have been around for awhile, happened under someones banner of “change”. As I have always said; don’t change for changes’ sake. If it works, don’t fix it-perfect it.
As far as the foot-and-cheek comment, yeh, it is the internet. Best to know who and what you are talking about.
February 11th, 2008 at 2:33 pm
Yeah…,best to know who and what YOU are talking to, big boy…
As I’ve gotten older, there are less and less “pissing contest”.
February 11th, 2008 at 2:39 pm
Jacob, I’m convinced you were having a bad day before, because we concur on a good amount of you contribution in post #22.
Bush tried to govern like he did in Texas. He conceded alot in every effort to try to be seen as a bipartisan.
What he underestimated is the hate and downright nasty standard operating procedure of the left. They are not interested in compromise for the country’s sake. They are on ready alert to twist facts and undermine the best of intentions. They hit Bush over the head with his own olive branch.
February 11th, 2008 at 9:51 pm
Ha ha! well I happen to know both parties and I would not recommend any feet being “put aside” anywhere, Dean, not in this case. Ya’ll would enjoy an adult beverage together, I guarantee that. Let’s just leave it at that.
February 11th, 2008 at 9:56 pm
I don’t understand the focus on working together to get things done. I’d perfer having nothing come out of the congress then this half baked junk they peddel around as progress.
I think the desire to have people work together stems from an emotional need rather then specific agenda. If Mac would say “I serve 4 years and not sign anything more comming out of this congress” that would be fine for me.
February 11th, 2008 at 11:48 pm
Ten feet
Bush, olive branch? You mean dumb stick right, you do mean dumb stick?
February 12th, 2008 at 9:24 am
10 feet,
Did you just pop in from an alternate universe? Or are you on a revisionist history kick?
Bush just sat around in Texas and did what the party bosses told him. “Reaching out” is easy when there aren’t really any liberals.
In the White House he tried taking 50 weeks of vacation a year until 9/11 and then found himself so far over his head that he basically went “tilt” and Cheney ran things, and there was nothing resembling an olve branch anywhere to be seen.
At this point in Bush’s term it’s way, way, too late for any reconciliation. There will be nothing coming out of Congress that Bush will sign. We’re in a holding pattern until January 21st, regardless of who wins the election. One thing we’re certain of, Bush will NOT win in November.
February 12th, 2008 at 6:14 pm
Tooshay Sanity, Tooshay!
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