Shooting Trip!!
April 25th, 2008 by joe
It may not be all that life is about, but it definitely is a part of what life is all about:
Tomorrow, Dan, ACTivist, Jacob and I will be at the range for a good number of hours and an exponentially larger number of rounds, plinking, blasting and challenging each other’s mettle.
Targets and clay pigeons will be obliterated, skills will be honed, glorious machines will be brought to bear, manhoods will be questioned, and epithets will fly amidst the cordite. God willing, it is going to be a VERY politically incorrect afternoon.
I promise a semi-comprehensive range report.
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April 25th, 2008 at 6:57 am
If you guys vare shooting cordite rounds, you’ve got some real antiques on your hands.
I’m jealous.
April 25th, 2008 at 8:39 am
“clay pigeons will be obliterated,”
If we hit at least two, this will be a true statement..
April 25th, 2008 at 9:11 am
dan,
they will also obliterate when they hit the ground
April 25th, 2008 at 1:46 pm
What range are you going to ?
April 25th, 2008 at 4:57 pm
Stone,
IWL near Leesburg
April 25th, 2008 at 8:09 pm
Joe was like a kid in a candy store with 50 bucks to spend. He was having too much fun and showed us what a pistoleer he really is with a Glock.
After I finally figured out how my entry shotgun operated, I realized that it really doesn’t belong on a trap range. Unfortunately the guys wouldn’t let me load up with 00 buck and clear the low house of clay pigeons. Party poopers all.
Still got some fun in and littered the deck with brass. I know the liberals reading this would want to hear about the mishaps since we were using firearms but, alas, there weren’t any. Just a bunch of responsible guys having fun.
April 25th, 2008 at 9:46 pm
Great time guys, we all busted our fair share of clay birds. ACT played the AK47 like it was a Stradivarius !
I had never fired an AK before, and I really enjoyed that experience. Thanks Joe !
April 25th, 2008 at 10:22 pm
ACT finally realized that the trench gun does not belong on a trap range, but he still oblitered more than his fair share of clays. I am way, way jealous of the M1D Garand he has. A good day for sure.
The look on Joe’s face when he fired the Remington Model 700 ADL bolt action said it all. She kicks like a mule don’t she Joe.
Dan, thanks again for the broadcasted invite. What a great way to spend an afternoon.
April 26th, 2008 at 6:32 am
The 30-06 don’t seem to kick at all when there’s a deer in the scope. Not so much BOOM, either.
April 26th, 2008 at 4:49 pm
No fair! I love making the world a safe place from clay pigeons and paper targets. It wouldn’t have done me any good today though, I’m sick as a dog.
April 26th, 2008 at 10:41 pm
Now now, let’s not make fun of ACT’s trench gun as he did pretty well with it.
We will have to do it again some time. Maybe an afternoon at Bull Run and we could try some trap, sporting clays or other games.
April 27th, 2008 at 9:57 am
We NEED to do it again. We’ll make it on a teacher work day since teachers really don’t do any work on those days (really a teacher/student skip day
). Just kidding, Brian.
I forgot about Jacob’s 700 BDL. Yeh, Joe’s face. Translated correctly=are YOU kidding me? Or better yet=are you KIDDING me? Just spotting for Jacob, the concussion on the side caused me a 10 second lapse just to get my vision back. What a beast! The only safe place around that gun is…….gosh.
We got to do that again. And this time pay attention to the invite, Jack and Greg. You can come too, smore. We need someone to staple targets for us. heh, heh, heh.
April 27th, 2008 at 10:10 am
We can have puffalump just hold the targets for us.
http://www.cybersalt.org/cl_images/1zzzzxa/m/militarycomplaining.jpg
BTW, I have a WWII Swiss K-31, the round is just slightly less powerful than a 30-06, but with the full stock, it’s a lot heavier, so it kicks less. We’ll let Joe shoot that.
April 27th, 2008 at 10:10 am
Oh, and if you think Jacob’s 30-06 kicks, try his 12-ga. with a rifled slug.
April 27th, 2008 at 10:20 am
Smore would do well to hold targets. You don’t know Jack but that could have been smore that you posted.
As far as the kick goes; the way I have to hold long guns these days, I don’t need anymore hamburger around my shoulder!
April 28th, 2008 at 1:43 pm
For those schedule challenged individuals, just checked and Bull Run has evening hours. Also, their multiple fields can accommodate more than one squad of 5.
3:00pm to 8:00pm on Tuesdays, Wednesdays and Thursdays
2:00pm to 8:00pm on Fridays
A round of skeet or trap is $4.75 a head.
More info :
http://www.nvrpa.org/parks/bullrunshooting/
April 28th, 2008 at 1:59 pm
I sense a Movement is afoot. Better get practicing ….
April 28th, 2008 at 2:02 pm
I still have black and blue marks
April 28th, 2008 at 2:50 pm
“I still have black and blue marks ”
and all thought I wore the vest to look fashionable..
April 28th, 2008 at 2:52 pm
Dan,
no one said the vest looked ‘fashionable’, the wirds I remember where rather ‘different’
April 28th, 2008 at 3:03 pm
Different ? Ok, now I know what you were REALLY thinking..
Actually, it is different to not wear one, cause if you don’t you end up with black and blue marks..
April 28th, 2008 at 8:32 pm
I remember specifically that the word I used started with a letter that SOUNDS like “d”. But that is okay, Dan. You were right wearing that “fashionable” pad. I didn’t shoot Jacob’s beast so my brusies came from the M1D or that funny little Russian gun of Joe’s.
I might want to be fashionable myself next time Dan so remember to bring the spare.
April 29th, 2008 at 12:02 pm
Act, jacob, Ok, I’m crying uncle..
April 29th, 2008 at 10:51 pm
Were y’all shooting bolt action rifles? I’ve never gotten black and blue marks from my shotgun — never shot rifle slugs from it either, which I understand are a bear.
April 29th, 2008 at 10:59 pm
jacob had a bolt action Remington 700. The rest were semi-auto, AK, SKS, M1.
Need to scrounge up an ‘03 Springfield to show these guys the real meaning of discomfort.
April 29th, 2008 at 11:06 pm
Yup, it was the 700 that put the hurting on me. The others were like pea shooters in comparison.
April 29th, 2008 at 11:50 pm
one afternoon I put 60 rounds through that thing. I was a hurting pup the next day.
April 30th, 2008 at 12:04 am
I can imagine. My .308 carbine with factory ammo is like that too. My 3.0-06 is pretty tame in comparison..
April 30th, 2008 at 7:26 am
Jacob, was that the day you were trying to sight-in with that Korean crap ammo?
April 30th, 2008 at 1:19 pm
He put Korean ammo in a Remington 700 ?
That’s about as cheap as you can get..
April 30th, 2008 at 4:23 pm
Dan,
“That’s about as cheap as you can get..”
Flattery, blatant flattery. You only could have been nicer had you called me a skin flint.
Jack,
Yup. 20 rounds of Winchester, 40 rounds of crap.
April 30th, 2008 at 10:15 pm
Dan left out the guns that I believe did the bruising-shotguns. And they only bruise sensitive people. You know, people with “feelings”.
Dan, I ain’t bringing out the 03A4. It is pristine/museum quality and I’m not running any ammo thru it. If you can find a shooter somewhere I’d like to give it a try.
April 30th, 2008 at 10:28 pm
I’ve got a sporterized Swiss Gewehr 96/11, older than any ‘03 and an action smoother than butter.
Y’all can shoot that.
April 30th, 2008 at 11:07 pm
Act, if you mentioned you had an 03, I missed that.. I would not shoot a pristine antique either.. What else you got under the bed ?
Per the shotguns, your comment is likely true. There are differences between a field gun, and a sporting clays gun. Field guns are made to carry all day, and shoot a little. Clays guns, are made to shoot all day, and carry a little. They are typically heavier, weighing up to 1.5-2 pounds more than a field gun. As I recall, 1lb of additional weight, reduces shotgun recoil by 10%. There is a noticeable difference in recoil between my o/u, and my pump with the same load. The barrel porting helps out too..
Jacob, a sweet piece like your Remington 700 deserves a quality diet..
April 30th, 2008 at 11:10 pm
jack, one of these ?
http://www.radix.net/~bbrown/schmidt_rubin.html#m1896-11
April 30th, 2008 at 11:16 pm
Jack, sorry, senior moment, missed your link..
Wild looking action on this rifle. What work has been done on it ?
May 1st, 2008 at 6:28 am
The top handguard is gone, the stock has been cut to look like a hunting rifle, and the barrel has been cut and recrowned.
May 1st, 2008 at 9:06 am
Jack,
Would love to give it a try as long as it isn’t one of these “home-built-basement-conversion” jobs!
(The original Gew.1889 was, obviously, unsuited for conversion, as the 45k+ chamber pressures of the new round would turn the older design into a clumsily long pipe bomb.)
May 1st, 2008 at 10:20 am
First of all, it was an 1896 converted to 1911. (The Gew.1889’s were not converted.) Second, it has all the armory inspection stamps indicating that it passed the tests. Third, I’ve already put many rounds through it without any problems.
May 1st, 2008 at 10:58 am
“Jack! Jack! We named the monkey Jack!”
Capt. Barboosa of the Black Pearl
I just liked the article’s mention of a clumsy pipe bomb. Jacob told me your sense of humor was fantastic but I can’t be sure that I agree with him. To put it another way, the saying goes “if you can’t have fun being serious, you will have painful hemmoroids”. Maybe it was from a fortune cookie. It doesn’t matter. I’m sure you get my drift (the smiley face was a dead give-away you liberal).
May 1st, 2008 at 1:33 pm
Good idea :
CCRKBA says‘spend ‘stimulus’ checks on firearms, ammunition
With the federal government preparing to return more money to American taxpayers in the form of “economic stimulus” checks, the Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms (CCRKBA) recently spawned an idea that quickly had gun rights activist support.
“Americans should let the government buy your next gun,” suggested CCRKBA Chairman Alan Gottlieb.
He suggested spending all or at least part of the tax rebate on a new firearm or ammunition, or some kind of shooting accessory. He said purchasing new guns and gear “would be a boon to America’s firearms industry for that money to be spent on pursuits guaranteed by the Second Amendment, while also providing jobs and paychecks, and creating new jobs for people in the industry.”
May 1st, 2008 at 10:58 pm
Dear Abby,
I’m thinking about spending my tax refund on surplus military rifles, but I am not sure who would most benefit. If it was the employees of eastern European factories like Cugir that would be cool, I guess, because I want to keep them in business. But I would hate to be screwing over my countrymen. My sister says a dollar to the Romanians is a dollar out of an American’s pocket.
Please weigh in!
May 2nd, 2008 at 2:44 am
Your sister is wrong.
Let us say you earn $100,000 a year, just to make the numbers easy. It can be said that your work has created $100,000 worth of goods or services. Expanding that to all workers in the U.S., we can say that if they create $10 trillion in goods and services, they will collectively earn $10 trillion.
If the American people spend $9 trillion on American goods, and $1 trillion on imported goods, then what happens to the $1 trillion of U.S. goods not purchased by Americans? It is exported! We buy foreign goods, and the other coutries buy our goods.
We have a trade deficit not because people buy foreign goods, but because people spend more than they earn. If we earn, collectively, $10 trillion, but spend $11 trillion, the extra $1 trillion in goods MUST come from another country, because we only created $10 trillion worth of goods and services.
If we all decide to stop buying from China, but keep going into debt, it will make no difference. We will get our extra $1 trillion in goods from somewhere, such as Korea, Japan, or India. They, in turn, must replace the goods that they are now selling to the United States. Where will they get them? China, of course.
Our willingness to go into debt to buy things creates the trade deficit, not our willingness to buy foreign products.
May 2nd, 2008 at 12:44 pm
So if I buy that AK here or we send it to Katmandu and I buy it there, does that mean that I am still helping to keep the dockworkers in NY on the payroll?
What a stupid question. I make too much money to get debt money from the government anyway. I would have to pay for it out of pocket. And I can’t afford a plane ticket to Katmandu.
May 2nd, 2008 at 1:51 pm
Jack, How can we stop buying from China, as that is all that you see on the store shelves these days. People think they are getting a deal when they pay 25% less for something that lasts half as long ?
ACT, if you have a change of heart and do go, keep a lookout for Bob Seeger, give him my regards, and buy him a cold Everest.
May 2nd, 2008 at 2:24 pm
ACTivist,
Do not confuse individual welfare with general welfare. Even in a growing economy with rampant job growth, many people are losing their jobs as competition and a shifting economy put companies out of business or require them to reorganize their workforce.
May 2nd, 2008 at 2:26 pm
“How can we stop buying from China…?”
I did not say we could — I said it would do no good if we decided to do so. But let us say, as a hypothetical, that the government banned goods from China as it has goods from Cuba.
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