Don’t even get me started on this farce of a war.

Tell me about Bulkry. . .

Monarchies have successions. We had a secession.

“Shelby Foote’s 3 book narrative “The Civil War””
I read that. Awesome book.

I think that Jacob is playing both sides againest everyone. While I was reading his passion, I decided to google his famile tree. He’s married to Mary Todd’s great granddaughter. You don’t think Maria keeps Arnold straight? Since you didn’t know this, I will clue you in. A Marine’s one weakness (and I do mean one) is ….women.

“The idea that the dems cried like someone stole their puppy may be; you’ll have to forgive my ignorance as I was a registered repub then but only really paid one scintilla of attention to politics. ”
What a load. The Democrats threw a hissy fit that was big enough to to make the papers in London let alone here. The show West Wing even had a few monologues on the issue. Where you under a rock?

“It wouldn’t surprise me, though, that anyone interested in grabbing as much power as possible to set up a “forever” dynasty would cry like a baby when the power slips mysteriously through their fingers like sand.”
You mean like the Democrats after Clinton butt boy Gore lost in 2000?

“n a country with a collective personality of someone with Bulimia Nervosa on Axis I and a personality disorder (probably Borderline, though I’m not fond of the current diagnostic system for personality disorders) on Axis II, what do you expect?”
I get the Bulimia Nervosa part, what is Axis I and Axis II?

“Next the country regurgitates you and your kind and gluttons itself on the other end of the spectrum, never happy (or even sure of) who they are.”
This is the result of people having an encyclopedic knowledge of the ins and outs of Friends, Seinfeld and American Idol. If you don’t know better you eat junk food.

“I never understood how any conservative could argue for the Patriot Act or Unilateral War or firing attorneys who don’t prosecute the way your freakin’ POLITICAL PARTY wants them to instead of the Constitution, or. . . . . . .”
1. Patriot Act is a mess, I still think we need something to handle the terrorist threat. If not that then what?

2. Unilateral war my ass, if you want to get into that we still technically where in a state of hostility since gulf war I, Saddam was supposed to abide by the terms of the cease fire and he did not, please note all the friggin resolutions. That Rumsfeld did a McNamara impersonation that is award winning only serves to boggle the mind.

3, As for the attourneys, your are all wet, Clinton fired ALL the bastards when he took office. They serve at the PLEASURE of the president. This is fever swamp time, have you been drinking the kool aid?

“If these goofballs are conservatives then conservatives need to get the f— out, for real.”
Bucklry said they were not, as for Bush getting the f-out it will happen. As dumb as Bush is you would think your friggin party could have someone with a higher GPA to run against him.

I didn’t catch it when I typed it. Sorry. I meant to say Jacobins and it was only during Lincolns’ time as President that they hounded him to no end. Between Horace Greely, the Jacobins, governors and generals, I don’t know why the guy just didn’t shoot himself and be done with it.

Many (too many) documents and books to review. A good compilation, and I do mean “good”, is Shelby Foote’s 3 book narrative “The Civil War”

The press in the North ripped Lincoln up one side and down the other. If he was closing the presses of those who were in open rebellion then that is prudent, if you are saying otherwise you continue to sound like some flower power yahoo who allows the enemy more rights than their own side.

“The papers weren’t shut down, it was more of selective Post Office delivery by executive order if memory serves me correctly.”
So the mail did not get delivered in NC? During a time of war? Yup, real gripping stuff their Danny boy. Trampled the constitution to mush he did.

“The North could never allow the split, as the tariff free deep water ports of the south would have killed northern commerce. When the north realized this, the seeds were sown.”
The North was far and away richer than the South. Look at the industrial base, railroad infrastructure etc. An agricultural economy is never richer than an industrial or mercantile economy. There were 22M in the north and 11M in the south 3M of whom where slaves. The economic might of the north far and away eclipsed the south’s. The war was over the right to own slaves, and the right of the individual state to determine that issue. Get a grip indeed.

Precisely my point to jacob, he defends tooth and fang the most liberal, big government, constitution infringing Republican President the US has had, and he rails against McCain. Think the guy is tip-toeing with male menopause or something, I suspect a hormonal imbalance here.

The idea that the dems cried like someone stole their puppy may be; you’ll have to forgive my ignorance as I was a registered repub then but only really paid one scintilla of attention to politics. It wouldn’t surprise me, though, that anyone interested in grabbing as much power as possible to set up a “forever” dynasty would cry like a baby when the power slips mysteriously through their fingers like sand.

In a country with a collective personality of someone with Bulimia Nervosa on Axis I and a personality disorder (probably Borderline, though I’m not fond of the current diagnostic system for personality disorders) on Axis II, what do you expect?

Next the country regurgitates you and your kind and gluttons itself on the other end of the spectrum, never happy (or even sure of) who they are.

I never understood how any conservative could argue for the Patriot Act or Unilateral War or firing attorneys who don’t prosecute the way your freakin’ POLITICAL PARTY wants them to instead of the Constitution, or. . . . . . .

If these goofballs are conservatives then conservatives need to get the f— out, for real. And now that I’ve totally digressed It appears we have come to the same conclusion.

Mwah! Kissin’ off!

Of course you realize that the only reason Lincoln won was there was too much apathy and PEOPLE STAYED HOME INSTEAD OF HOLDING THEIR NOSE AND VOTING! Oops.

BTW I was actually talking about the no name inbred chucker that invited himself to our table and conversation. I would NEVER make a dig on Jacob.