Blacks Against Obama
May 14th, 2008 by joe
Pretty devastating critique in today’s TNR:
As the son of a Baptist minister, I can attest that Wright is and was an extreme aberration from how the overwhelming majority of black Christians worship. In church, black people hear about Peter, Paul, Mary, and how to get into heaven. How to forgive. How to love. Not how to vote.
But here was Barack suggesting that Wright’s behavior was commonplace in black churches: “I can no more disown him than I can disown the black community.” He generalized Wright’s ridiculousness to distract from his individual choice to worship under a buffoon for two decades. I have a cousin who attended Wright’s church for three weeks and then left, never to return. She had no interest in hearing his nonsense from the pulpit.
Barack obscured the true nature of black religious life because, to do otherwise, he would have had to answer the question, “Why are you a member of a church that is this racially divisive and such a sharp aberration to how the rest of black people worship?”
He has “worshipped” there for 20 years; he named his last book after one of the Reverend’s sermons; etc. etc. A great case could be made that Obama himself must be a closet racist or how could he possibly have withstood the storm of hatred emanating from the pulpit.
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May 14th, 2008 at 5:11 pm
Scandal of the century! The New Republic adds 2+2 and gets 5!!!
June 5th, 2008 at 4:59 pm
Well for one, he’ll use the black name to further imperialism.
He will act like economic exploitation and American Imperialism, which King died fighting don’t exist.
People will love him and he will unite whites and blacks, to tear down King’s legacy.
June 28th, 2008 at 10:47 pm
Mr and Mrs Obama make us look bad. Can they place leave us patriotic Americans alone, we give more than any other nation to help the poor and all they want to do is take more taxes from us. Obama, if its my wallet you want, you cant have it. Shame on you. Now go change your mind, as you do so well.
June 29th, 2008 at 12:01 pm
Kevin,
The comment while snarkey in a zimzo-esque kind of way makes no damn sense, in a zimzo-esque kind of way. Care to expand on how 4+4=5 in the TNR article? Or you gonna just let it stand in a zimzo-esque kind of way.
June 29th, 2008 at 5:43 pm
I think I might just let it stand. And it was 2+2=5, like in a synergistic way. Whereas 4+4=5 would give the impression that I meant it in a diminutive way. There are many in the comments section of the article who more or less would echo my thoughts, I think I can probably leave it at that, at least for today.
August 26th, 2008 at 6:56 pm
The O-man, Barack Hussein Obama, is an eloquently tailored empty suit. No
resume, no accomplishments, no experience, no original ideas, no understanding
of how the economy works, no understanding of how the world works, no balls,
nothing but abstract empty rhetoric devoid of real substance.
He has no real identity. He is half-white, which he rejects. The rest of him is
mostly Arab, which he hides but is disclosed by his non-African Arabic surname
and his Arabic first and middle names as a way to triply proclaim his Arabic
parentage to people in Kenya . Only a small part of him is African Black from
his Luo grandmother, which he pretends he is exclusively.
What he isn’t, not a genetic drop of, is ‘African-American,’ the descendant of
enslaved Africans brought to America chained in slave ships. He hasn’t a single
ancestor who was a slave. Instead, his Arab ancestors were slave owners.
Slave-trading was the main Arab business in East Africa for centuries until the
British ended it.
Let that sink in: Obama is not the descendant of slaves, he is the descendant of
slave owners. Thus he makes the perfect Liberal Messiah.
It’s something Hillary doesn’t understand - how some complete neophyte came out
of the blue and stole the Dem nomination from her. Obamamania is beyond politics
and reason. It is a true religious cult, whose adherents reject Christianity yet
still believe in Original Sin, transferring it from the evil of being human to
the evil of being white.
Thus Obama has become the white liberals’ Christ, offering absolution from the
Sin of Being White. There is no reason or logic behind it, no faults or flaws of
his can diminish it, no arguments Hillary could make of any kind can be e
ffective against it. The absurdity of Hypocrisy Clothed In Human Flesh being
their Savior is all the more cause for liberals to worship him: Credo quia
absurdum, I believe it because it is absurd.
Thank heavens that the voting majority of Americans remain Christian and are in
no desperate need of a phony savior.
His candidacy is ridiculous and should not be taken seriously by any straight
thinking American.
Pass this on to every straight thinking American you know!
August 26th, 2008 at 7:15 pm
Diarrhea of the keyboard!!!
August 26th, 2008 at 8:42 pm
Lovisa,
don’t be so hard on yourself
August 27th, 2008 at 8:00 am
Bryan -
I’m a first time poster on this site. I must say that as a “straight thinking” Black American who loves his country dearly and owes a great deal to the opportunity it affords, your thoughts and prose about NoBama are eerily similar to my semtiments. Only you took things to an altogether new level with your very rich introspection and postulation. I thouroughly enjoyed your offering.
NoBama is indeed an empty suit. When you ask any of his disciples about the constitution of his platform other than “hope” and “change”, you get the same annoying, empty rhetoric that spills from the master’ lips - and you leave the discussion empty handed; rather, empty minded. (Note to self: find a new word for ‘empty’)
This man is dangerous and has built a career on deriding America while exploiting her benevolence, a la any two-bit, third world dictator. The state of of Lincoln should be ashamed for unloading this clown on the rest of the country!!
Again, very well said my friend.
August 27th, 2008 at 8:24 am
SteveM,
Welcome to our site, sounds like you will get along with the staff and be reviled by some of the other visitors. This puts you in fine company.
August 28th, 2008 at 11:50 am
Bryan,
Well said! My thoughts to a “T”!!! He is the emptiest of empty suits and the media is totally gutless in even questioning anything about his ideas, principles, or agenda. It must feel good to know that if you don’t like how someone critiques you, that you can just call them a racist and shut them down. I don’t remember Alan Keyes getting the same treatment 8 years ago when he ran for President. Maybe in the Media’s defense, I guess it’s hard to ask questions when you have your lips firmly planted on someone’s rear end!
September 4th, 2008 at 11:27 pm
All of you are some sell out house negros. I hate to say it. man, I have heard your reasoning for being against Barack Obama and you sound more paranoid and afraid than these old racist folks that usually vote Republican. Brainwashed. Self hatred. This is proof that some blacks hate themselves more than the most racist of white people.
September 5th, 2008 at 1:24 am
Obama ain’t going to do diddly for the black man, he’s too busy selling out to the white man, and the Hispanics.
Wake up fool, and stop following the Democrats waiting for a few crumbs to drop your way. You got to ask yourself, what have the Democrats done for us lately ? The answer is “they ain’t done shit”, rodney.
Me, I have no hatred, and there isn’t any such thing as house negros anymore, least not where I live.
September 5th, 2008 at 6:17 pm
Black people make Black people look bad. How the hell is Barack Obama making black people look bad? Wake up you bunch of bitter Negros…that’s right, I said it!
September 5th, 2008 at 6:40 pm
How is Obama making black people look good ? Im talking about more than a $3,000 suit now.
How does he make black people look bad ? As reverend Jackson said, he talks down to them.
September 6th, 2008 at 9:48 pm
What’s freedom to you folks..? Is it The Fairness Doctorin? Carbon credits. Raising taxes for small business owners to the point of no return. Striping the rights to bare arms. If so pack your stuff and move to Cuba. The fact is this folks. If Barack Obama grew up in a society of maximum goverment”like the one he is trying to impose on us. Would he have been able to get as far as he has gotten doing things the good-old fashioned way, ON HIS OWN? This man has openly told us he is a socialist and a Marxist. One of Barack’s mentors growing up Poet Frank Marshall Davis”. Davis was a known communist who belonged to a party subservient to the Soviet Union. So for all of you misguided missles out there I suggest you wake the F%$K up and smell the roses because your about to vote in one of the most radical people in our country.
September 12th, 2008 at 6:08 pm
Are the people leaving these comments african american??? If so, i have never seen such a display of self hate and brain wash in my life…This is a historic moment for ALL people who have not had the same rights in our country as the next man/woman. Even if you dont agree with Obama, dont tear him down…That is what’s wrong with our communities today… No love, just self hate…
September 12th, 2008 at 6:09 pm
But O’Bama is not from the African American community, is he, Cassie?
September 13th, 2008 at 7:40 am
Jack-Obama is bi-racial(black/white). His father is Kenyan and mom American. Obama was raised by his white mother in AMERICA but still has AFRICAN descent. He has worked with lower income citizens in the Southside of chicago(have you ever been there?? primarily african-american)and made changes within a COMMUNITY that you are hinting he does not belong or come from…If you listen to his speeches, pay attention to his family dynamics/circle-he IDENTIFIES with African-americans because that is partly who he is…and regardless of who he is racially, he is a man that is interested in changing not only african-american communities but ALL communities. He’s not just a candidate for THE people, he’s a candidate for ALL people and this is a proud defining moment in AMERICAN history. Im not sure what you are or who you identify with but if you are AMERICAN, there should be some pride on your part when it comes to Senator Barack Obama and his achievements thus far. Spread the love, not the hate…
September 13th, 2008 at 7:59 am
Cassie, Please show me specifically what Obama did in the South side of Chicago to “improve the lives” of it’s residents. Which initiatives did he implement, what advances were made, what were the results of his efforts? How did he leave the people of the Southside of Chicago better off?
Chicago has one of the highest murder rates in the country, unemployment is high, poverty rates have remained the same for the past 20 years. Inner city activists like to make speeches and advertise their “service”, yet we never hear about what they are actually doing and the results of their work.
Chicago is no different from many urban areas that have plenty of activists and little to show. I feel for the residents of these areas, they are held hostage by the failed policies of their supposed leaders and continue to decline in education and general safety.
Point me in the direction of some study or proof that Obama’s work had any real benefit in the communities her served.
September 13th, 2008 at 9:22 am
I know a lot of Caucasian people who work in inner-city homeless shelters and soup kitchens in DC. (Those activities are parts of our church outreach program.) So what? They are no more or less part of the African-American community than O’Bama is. He did not grow up in that community, did he? I could, because of my ancestry, go to Germany and become a German citizen. I even speak German. But I will not have grown up in that culture.
September 15th, 2008 at 12:04 am
Have you seen this guy?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khuu-RhOBDU&eurl=http://shilohmusings.blogspot.com/2008/04/blacks-against-obama.html
September 19th, 2008 at 2:06 pm
wow. Sounds like a bunch of chips on your shoulders. this site is such a surprise. i thought we had finally progressed. well thankfully, you are just a small in fact miniscule group of folks who are afraid to move forward. God forbid you get an Obama in and have nothing wo whine about anymore …
September 19th, 2008 at 2:48 pm
John Jackson,
Welcome but I think you are looking for the “Contribute To The Messiah” website. That would be moveon.org. Stop by again when you have nothing better to do.
September 19th, 2008 at 3:34 pm
Obama is a silver toung idealogue with a seemingly endless amount of compaqssion for Human beings of all nations because his experience and education has led him to a high degree of development. This is so on an intellectual level illustrated by being Harvard Law Review, on a spiritual level serving the down troden and disadvantaged underachievers
and on anemotional level as well with his quiet listening personality with people of all levels.
However such a well read and sympathetic man may be an impediment to progress when dealing with the undesrevig masses of underdeveloped creatures claming membership in the Human race.Perhaps better suited to the task is a Palen with her brutal bulldog and unrestained techniques to keep the savages in check who would confiscate the priviledges of the better
part of the race before evolution prepares them to assume a rightful place in the order of things. Shakespeare himself saw the great risks to society of an unchecked rabble in the hierarchy set down by God in his predetermined order for man. She and Mccain are better prepared for this onerous but necessary task if
Gods plan is to succeed for man
September 19th, 2008 at 5:04 pm
I have read most of the comments and it all that i can say is that first, one man cannot change the effects of a bruta past for the Black American. Obama is a just a sign of change in the eyes of America and he happens to be a darker color than the others. All of you who say what will he do for the Black community must ask yourselves what have you done to contribute? If all you have done is post a comment on this website, then you really dont have the “nuts” that you say are necessary. This is not a Black-White issue. This is a story of change and realism. But I dont expect you to understand if you already dont.
September 19th, 2008 at 5:58 pm
You’d basically have to be a house negro to be against Obama.
September 19th, 2008 at 7:00 pm
Rodney, et al…
Shake it up.
http://thebulletproofmonk.blogspot.com/2008/09/i-ran-across-most-interesting-tidbit.html
September 19th, 2008 at 7:12 pm
You be the man Monk. I never knew that.. thanks for the tidbit..
September 19th, 2008 at 7:39 pm
Every once in a while, I will run into the foolishness of the likes that are against Obama. It’s so pathetic, not that they don’t want to vote for him, but for the uninformed reasons they come up with. It’s almost comical, but then it’s so very sad. The willie Lynch syndrome that was perpetuated for so long is alive and well! Thes pitiful black folks “HATE” themselves. so sad.. But then again, they’re so inconsequential. We will win, all of us including them when Obama heads up the White House and becomes the first President for Change, in addition to becoming the first Black President. The world awaits him.
September 19th, 2008 at 8:30 pm
Yeah, sis, the world’s waiting to roll this naive moron like a wino.
September 20th, 2008 at 9:07 am
Sis sounds like some of the other Obama followers that have posted lately, do we have an Obama troll? I feel so harrassed.
September 20th, 2008 at 12:59 pm
Hello,
First time posting. I have been reading these posts and I am a little surprised. I am not black… I am a “mutt”. But I have always felt that America, being one nation, should not have racial dividers. I will not be voting for O’bama, but not because he is black, but because his policies will take more money out of our pockets for very little return.
I am a woman, and would not have voted for Clinton this term either for the same reasons. Sad to say, more and more each election season, it no longer becomes a choice for the “Best” president, but a choice for the lesser evil of the two.
If people do not wish to vote for a president, that is their right. If they wish to speak out against our government, that is their right too. I am grateful to have the right to speak my mind without censorship.
I just wish that these rights were not manifested on focusing on the one thing that should NOT be an issue in choosing our next commander in chief….race, religion or sex.
September 20th, 2008 at 7:20 pm
I have been watching this campaign and I have to say that the race issue is not the issue at all.
This election is a turning point in our history as Americans.
Do we elect a man who has helped put this country into financial chaos while monetarily benefiting from it?
Do we elect a man who has no experience what so ever to run our nation?
A man who gained entrance to the senate office: and then turns around to run for president.
A possible plant by Marxist or Islamic terrorist: who want to gain control via though Obama? While this thought sounds extreme think of how long it took to plan 9/11. Why not spend the next 7 years grooming a position for America’s highest office, commander in chief.
With that thought:
Do we elect a liberal left winger who favors the enemy and wants to dismantle our military?
I still have not heard from any Obama supporters on this blog who can tell me why our country would benefit from the experience Obama has to run our nation. Any democrat care to answer?
Mean while at wnd.com: Jerome Corsi has an excellent article, link is below:
Http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=page.view&pageid=75478
The title is:
What Obama didn’t dispute in my book?
Once again race is not the issue; Obama made it an issue as a diversion to his campaign.
September 20th, 2008 at 9:47 pm
Of course it is not about race, but O’Bama and his supporters have to MAKE it about race, because they have nothing else.
September 21st, 2008 at 12:01 am
Schnitzen, how has obama made this about race?
September 21st, 2008 at 10:53 am
El jefe, Obama has ben more careful in the last couple weeks, but prior to the conventions he routinely used the race card in his stump speeches, which is part of the reason they put him back on the teleprompter.
There were probably 6-7 speeches in which he “warned” people that McCain would try to “Scare” them by saying that he “doesn’t look like all the other Presidents on the dollar bill, and oh, did you notice he is black?” That is almost a direct quote. I’m not sure what you call that, but I call it race baiting.
September 21st, 2008 at 11:22 am
that one speech is still the only reference i hear from people who claim obama is playing the race card, it is a pretty weak one at that. and it is still strange that repubs complain about that because it doesn’t even compare to the whining about sexism and media bias from the plain-mccain campaign; they even brought that up during their convention. obama has worked hard not to make it about race, even though there is reasonable evidence that his race may be a key reason some voters won’t support him.
September 21st, 2008 at 11:30 am
el jefe,
there was more than one, featured …
1. did I mention he’s black (early spring)
2. he has a funny name (last fall)
3. he looks different than the guys on the dollar bill (late spring)
4. Bill C. claimed obama played the card (in the winter)
then there are the Obama supporters. The trouble with that is should a Senator from Illinois be held responsible for the spew from a Governor from Kansas or NY, or the various and sundry MSM trolls.
September 21st, 2008 at 11:39 am
El Jefe, He said the same thing in a variety of ways in about 6-7 speeches. Does it really matter whether he said it once or 100 times? It is still race baiting, and that he backed off is an indication that he KNOWS it’s race baiting. Of course Obama is not used to being held to any standard or called on any of his assertions, see the attached video snippet which I have posted once already:
http://www.stoptheaclu.com/archives/2008/09/21/obama-yelling-at-and-scaring-senior-citizens/
September 21st, 2008 at 11:53 am
This is the sickest most self-loathing, uninformed web site I have ever seen. Not one of you knows the facts and each one of you is clearly in denial about the state of America and in particular
Black America.
September 21st, 2008 at 12:12 pm
Chief, Obama has played the race card a whole bunch of times.
Christiane, yeah that’s us.
September 21st, 2008 at 1:24 pm
joe, i think our blog might have you beat as “the sickest most self-loathing, uninformed web site I have ever seen.”
September 21st, 2008 at 1:51 pm
EL JEFE,
Put up or shut up.
Since you are so the Obama supporter, put up why you support this man and what qualities and experience he has to be our next president.
If you are unwilling or cannot support your candiate than please shut up.
Thank You
September 21st, 2008 at 2:39 pm
marjie, i like “shut up” followed by “thank you.” just based on politics i will almost always support the democrat running unless they are a wannabe republican or a criminal. out of the dems, i thought obama was the brightest, most charasmatic, and gave us a new leader other than the clintons. i’ve thought ‘experience’ is overrated, and clearly your candidate does too, that’s why he picked plain. why do you support mccain? your main insight on the election seems to be a endless to attempt to show that because obama is a muslim.
September 21st, 2008 at 2:46 pm
one more thing, as my roommate suggested, i think it’s time to start the ‘whites against mccain’ thread.
September 21st, 2008 at 4:30 pm
El jefe,
Well I will say at least you made an attempt to answer.
Aside from lack of experience that Obama has and his constant denial about being a Muslim contrary to what is being uncovered about him, I would say you need to look beyond charismatic to run our nation.
Funny thing about McCain and Palin. I feel McCain has issues with immigration, illegal aliens and amnesty. He is for amnesty, I am not.
Although Sarah Palin is a small town Governor, she has managed to run a budget and return monies back to the people of Alaska. She is most definitely for the American people and not for the “Muslims” as Obama has stated. She is straight forward and does not change words in her speeches to pander a crowd.
My anti Obama is the result of his lying and deceitful manner in which he has presented himself to America. Obama’s past that comes to light on a daily basis. The $126 thousand dollars from Fannie may kick backs, his advisor is the former CEO of Fannie May, his association with known terrorist William Ayers and communist Saul Alonsky.
With all of the above and what I know of during his campaign is that Obama is not the man for America. I could care less that he is black. I want a person who is for America. Period.
To put America first and fore most in all areas of her welfare.
I do not want a lying, deceitful charlatan to run our nation.
September 21st, 2008 at 5:15 pm
maj, what’s funny is that you couldn’t even say a good thing about mccain. how about a little support for your actual presidential candidate.
as you said, “If you are unwilling or cannot support your candiate…”
September 21st, 2008 at 6:16 pm
I never stated whom i was voting for..did I
September 21st, 2008 at 6:18 pm
The theme song of Christine and Sis: “Nobody knows nothin’ but us!” My, what a wonderful world it will be if their choral director, the Honorable BHO, should actually wind up with the reins of power, God forbid. At least El Jefe tries to make a reasoned argument — some of the time, at least.
September 21st, 2008 at 6:28 pm
lol. maj, true, i would strongly encourage that you vote for barr or write in buchanan. a vote for mccain would be bad.
wolv, is that a sign of where you went to college?
September 21st, 2008 at 7:19 pm
Whomever I vote for will be the right one to lead our nation.
While I may not agree with everything that the party I vote for, they will always have America and Americans first and foremost in their minds.
Why do you think McCain would be bad?
While I said those 2 items that I disagree with, he has alot to offer America. Dedication is one, America first,long standing experience in government that he makes a stand in, check out his voting record verse Obama’s. There is no comparision between the two. McCain wins in that area by a landslide. (at least check from the time Obama entered office to today)
Besides being charismatic, you haven’t stated the qualities or experience Obama has to lead our nation. I have yet to chat with a Obama supporter who would be able to list them out.
Care to be the first?
September 21st, 2008 at 7:34 pm
I really like that El Jefe’s roommate is now making suggestions for threads on this blog - how extraordinary!
September 21st, 2008 at 7:50 pm
Alors, Chef (otherwise known as El Jefe), on the question of college the answer is a negative — just raised in that state and an avid, diehard football fan who holds my nose every time I have to drive by Columbus, Ohio, on the interstate.
Actually, my very best education came when I was all by my lonesome deep in the bush of the Dark Continent, in places that would have had that Harvard man, BHO, crying for his mama. Because of that, I can probably relate better to BHO’s brother in Kenya than BHO himself can.
Nevertheless, I wouldn’t want to offend Christine or Sis by claiming to have walked even a little bit in the shoes of African-Americans — even though I did learn that acute hunger followed by dysentery is a real bitch no matter the color of your skin.
I kind of chuckle sadly when I hear someone imply that my opposition to BHO may come from a racist attitude toward Blacks. Elsewhere in this blog I talked about having had a crazed bastard poke an automatic weapon into my ear. I am here to have an exchange with you now only because a Black “brother” saved my White life. Thus, I would hope that others can indulge me by allowing me to oppose BHO because of his political philosophy and ideas, not because of the color of his skin.
September 21st, 2008 at 9:22 pm
“I really like that El Jefe’s roommate is now making suggestions for threads on this blog”
Certainly stranger things have happened, I’m positive.
September 21st, 2008 at 9:27 pm
El Jefe’s roommate is nothing but trouble, I can assure you that. A real insidious type.
September 21st, 2008 at 9:35 pm
Reel insidious. Hook, line, and sinker.
September 21st, 2008 at 9:42 pm
Man I need to get my office organized so I can do that video. Thanks for the reminder.
We still need to have that NovaTownHall-Digital Camel Blog War Summit, you know.
September 21st, 2008 at 9:45 pm
EL JEFE,
I am so disappointed that you did not reply.
liberals are left silient when they cannot answer questions,
as for your room mate: he cannot answer for you either.
September 21st, 2008 at 9:54 pm
Indeed, Joe. Indeed. I think we need to pick a time and set it in cause it doesn’t seem to be setting itself in on its own!
I’m looking forward to the vid!
September 21st, 2008 at 9:59 pm
Good luck, El Jefe. It looks like you’re on your own for this one! Marge won’t let me answer for you.
September 21st, 2008 at 10:11 pm
liberals are also silent when tired. marj, i’m a democrat, i think there should be universal health care, civil unions, list most of your liberal causes. who do you think i’m going to vote for, mccain? and you keep talking experience yet you seem to prefer plain to mccain. sure obama does not have as much ‘experience’ as mccain, but it’s about judgement and someone who shares your views. at least i can acknowledge this, the true ‘palin derrangement syndrome’ is trying to argue that she’s more ‘experienced’ and ‘qualifed’ than obama.
i asked my roommate what he thought, he says ‘zippo!’
September 21st, 2008 at 10:18 pm
Um, no, that would be Zippy.
http://zippythepinhead.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=20-Sep-08&Category_Code=s2008&Product_Count=17
September 21st, 2008 at 10:19 pm
wolv, that’s intense, what were you doing in africa? and no sane person would say that those not voting for obama are racists, but it’s hard to deny it’s a reason for some people. what do you think of that rodriguez, sort of a let down i’m guessing.
September 22nd, 2008 at 6:46 am
El jefe,
Do your home work. Universal health care in other parts of the world is in complete chaos. In England even the ambulances have to wait in line to see a doctor, talk about out of luck if you have life threating injuries.
Think about this. You go to a doctor; he asks for an x-ray and he a finds a brain mass. You have to wait 3 to 6 months for a board of professionals to look at your x-ray to determine if you need it removed, in the mean time you feel just awful and it’s not getting better.
So you decide to come to the United States and see a doctor. He does a test and x-rays and finds the mass has grown and it’s unknown if it is malignant or benign. Your surgery is tomorrow. Dr says not to wait,
Good thing you didn’t wait for the board to make a choice. You would be dead,
This story came from a man in Canada, it’s true
He had a brain mass removed that would have killed him had he waited for the board to approve the next step in their universal health plan. This is not an isolated case, many people from overseas and Canada come here for health care. Their advantage is that they have the monetary means to do so. Are you so wealthly to make such a choice?
Just think of Medicare, a government run agency and it is a failure for the people and the doctors.
So you support civil unions, sorry bud, I do not support these unions so I’ll agree to
disagree and keep it at that.
Back to the experience issue:
When you think of experience in this campaign, ask yourself why so many of those who benefitted from Obama’s “experience” has not come forward to express their gratitude in all the wonderful deeds he’s done for them. Yep, they sure are speaking loud and clear, can’t you hear them?. As for Palin’s experience, she by far has an entire town and state standing behind her. Her experience, honesty and for the people work ethics has gained her the respect from the people of Alaska. Every Alaskan receives a check every year due to Palin’s work for the people. Can Obama say he has done even this much for the people instead of profiting himself of $126 thousand dollars along with John Kerry receiving $ 111 thousand dollars and Dodd receiving $136 thousand dollars. ALL ARE DEMOCRATS, WHAT A SURPRISE.
Yep, the democrats shove all that under the table money in their pockets and blame others for the messes they make.
September 22nd, 2008 at 7:25 am
The question remains, el jefe, why did the Democrats nominate such an inexperienced candidate? In fact, why did they nominate THE MOST inexperienced candidate?
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:12 am
I think El Jefe’s roommate is his cat, Mr. Whiskers.
September 22nd, 2008 at 3:55 pm
Martin Luther & Nelson Mandela maybe turning in their graves
I am a black female and I do not live in the US so this is only an outside view. I have read all the comments that have been posted and I want you to know that all the comments made about Obama parallels what was said about Martin Luther back when the civil rights movement started. He was a very young minister, with little experience; he was a deep thinker with only a dream of how this world could be. Many could not relate to or understand his none violent approach in a time when there was so much violence against blacks. Mandela had the same scrutiny because he spent most of his adult life in jail, little experience. They did not have a black agenda but a human agenda, just like Mandela who understand that two wrongs would never make a right.
I lived in the US for a while and I observed how helpless, hopeless and depressed the blacks were there. I could not understand why the people who lived in the most blessed country on the earth lived like that. I could not understand why when they free to build wealth that could past down from generations to generations they paid more attention to what they were driving. I could not understand why people would stay in ghettos helpless instead of just getting up and move. Most of the blacks I observe cut down each other, fight against each other, never protect each other and you even kill each other. You don’t understand the unity that Malcolm X stood for.
Have you ever thought that one of the reasons why Obama don’t have as much experience as McCain was because “Blacks” never had the same opportunities. Beyond the exceptions many never got the opportunity around the world and in the US until the late 80s and early 90s. What seems like a norm now was a rarity then.
“Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery none but our selves can free our mind” Bob Marley
September 22nd, 2008 at 4:21 pm
I also want to add as an outsider that the people who really hate America want McCain to win. They are laughing at you when they see the economy fail, when people are loosing their jobs, when you get hit by a natural disaster. Bin Laden’s attack on 911 on the world trade centre had one mission and that was to cripple the economy. Almost like a couple going through a divorce over a “vicious rumour” your neighbour spread. She did want to see you happy. She knows your family’s weakness and also your business so she intertwines them and your family fall victim and while you have all the in-house fighting she sits on her porch and laugh. If you don’t put yourselves back together your are giving them the victory.
Many people have never left the US so you don’t have a comprehensive view of how you are viewed. Race relations have to improve. The US media is everywhere and we know about you but you don’t know about us. All you do there is feed into is myths and stereo types. You are not independent thinkers who do your own fact checks.
September 22nd, 2008 at 4:21 pm
I also want to add as an outsider that the people who really hate America want McCain to win. They are laughing at you when they see the economy fail, when people are loosing their jobs, when you get hit by a natural disaster. Bin Laden’s attack on 911 on the world trade centre had one mission and that was to cripple the economy. Almost like a couple going through a divorce over a “vicious rumour” your neighbour spread. She did want to see you happy. She knows your family’s weakness and also your business so she intertwines them and your family fall victim and while you have all the in-house fighting she sits on her porch and laugh. If you don’t put yourselves back together your are giving them the victory.
Many people have never left the US so you don’t have a comprehensive view of how you are viewed. Race relations have to improve. The US media is everywhere and we know about you but you don’t know about us. All you do there is feed into is myths and stereo types. You are not independent thinkers who do your own fact checks.
September 22nd, 2008 at 4:22 pm
“Have you ever thought that one of the reasons why Obama don’t have as much experience as McCain was because ‘Blacks’ never had the same opportunities.”
Not once. O’Bama does not have the experience McCain does because he CHOSE not to join the military, and because he CHOSE not to wait until he had more experience before running for President.
McCain, however, chose to go the the Naval Academy, chose to stay in Hanoi, chose to stay in the military after Viet Nam. In 2000, when he ran for President, McCain had more experience in Congress than O’Bama has now.
Choices show one’s character.
September 22nd, 2008 at 4:36 pm
opps Mandel is still alive
September 22nd, 2008 at 4:37 pm
I also want to add as an outsider that the people who really hate America want McCain to win. They are laughing at you when they see the economy fail, when people are loosing their jobs, when you get hit by a natural disaster. Bin Laden’s attack on 911 on the world trade centre had one mission and that was to cripple the economy. Almost like a couple going through a divorce over a “vicious rumour” your neighbour spread. She did want to see you happy. She knows your family’s weakness and also your business so she intertwines them and your family fall victim and while you have all the in-house fighting she sits on her porch and laugh. If you don’t put yourselves back together your are giving them the victory.
Many people have never left the US so you don’t have a comprehensive view of how you are viewed. Race relations have to improve. The US media is everywhere and we know about you but you don’t know about us. All you do there is feed into is myths and stereo types. You are not independent thinkers who do your own fact checks.
September 22nd, 2008 at 5:33 pm
” I want you to know that all the comments made about Obama parallels what was said about Martin Luther”
Uh, no they don’t. MArtin Luther King never ran for President.
“Many people have never left the US so you don’t have a comprehensive view of how you are viewed”
Yes, they hate us, yet they are lined up to come here to live with us..
September 22nd, 2008 at 6:19 pm
To a better world,
No where has anyone condemned Obama in this blog for being a black American.
I have left the United States. I know what others feel about my country. I was attacked for being an American and told to go home.
The sad truth is that people like you want what we have but still hate us for it. Yet you will not make a stand and fight for freedom and liberty in your own country.
You talk about Martin Luther, (King) I presume. I won’t argue this point about his inexperience and what he had achieved during the civil rights movement. Too much time has passed To make it an issue.
If you want to argue experience for the presidency I would gladly vote for Colin Powell or Condoleezza Rice as examples. They are Americans who have much more experience; and love of our country than Obama.
If race is an issue for you than you have made it, but please base your opinion on a person abilities, experience and love of one’s country than the issue of being “black and Inexperienced”
September 22nd, 2008 at 6:42 pm
marj, given that you believe obama is a muslim, that the entire state of alaska is behind plain, and that plain is responsible for everyone in alaska receiving a check from the govt, i’m wondering if that brain mass story is about you. you can find the same stories in our system, large corporations can be just as if not more beaurcratic and callous than gov’t’s agencies, one case doesn’t prove anything. in any event, i answered your question why i’m voting for obama…
c-mac, that’s not the name, but a name that should be used in future posts.
schnitzen, why is that the republicans didn’t get behind the most experienced candidate until he picked one of the least experienced vp options? must have something to do with policies and charisma, and the fact more experience doesn’t automatically mean a better leader (and spare me the knee jerk, concrete party line that plain has more executive experience).
obama ‘08
September 22nd, 2008 at 7:07 pm
“large corporations can be just as if not more beaurcratic and callous than gov’t’s agencies”
Quite true, but we have only ONE federal government — companies come and go.
“why is that the republicans didn’t get behind the most experienced candidate until he picked one of the least experienced vp options?”
If Republicans did not “get behind him,” how did he win the nomination?
September 22nd, 2008 at 7:08 pm
meow.
September 22nd, 2008 at 8:11 pm
*yawn* schnitzen; really concrete.
September 22nd, 2008 at 8:29 pm
Hey, A Better World … How bout rootin’ for America for a change, you liberal scumbag.
September 22nd, 2008 at 8:42 pm
Because liberals want America to LOSE.
September 22nd, 2008 at 9:25 pm
el jefe,
Do you get tired of chasing your own tail with the same old crap you keep saying.
September 22nd, 2008 at 11:24 pm
Jefe, keep your cat off the blog, please. Blogs are for people.
September 23rd, 2008 at 3:21 am
Hey, El Jefe, how goes it? Say hello to that cat for me… or roommate, or whatever. Rodriguez is O.K. by me. It will take time; but I’m looking forward to some wide open offense for a change after all those years of four yards and a cloud of dust, mixed in with an occasional 60-yard pass. Go Blue! Next year, at least!
Let us get really intense here for just a moment, El Jefe. I once knew a fella…take it back….I knew him only after it was too late to know him. Nice fella, they told me…smart, well educated, destined for higher things, I’m sure. And then one day this fella made a wrong turn. They were waiting just for him. A remote control button was pushed with perfect timing. A powerful, targeted bomb went off. I will spare you the gruesome details. Suffice it to say that there wasn’t much left of this nice fella.
I happened to be among those assigned the task of catching the s.o.b.’s who had done the deed. At a moment like that, you cannot avoid looking up at the top of your professional pyramid to gauge what your own chieftains are really made of. Do they really understand the nature and demands of the mission? Do they understand the enemy? Will we get what we need to do the job? Can we take the gloves off? Will we be supported 100%, even when things are frustrating and gloomy? Will they listen to what we have to say and not to some ignorant, pompous yoyo on the political side? Will they make the right decisions at the right moment and not leave our guys (and gals) hanging out there in a situation where they are both the hunters and the hunted at the same time?
For a long time now, I have had some serious issues with John McCain. I still do. In fact, I really don’t like the man much at all. But then I find myself looking out of long habit at the top of that old “pyramid”, putting myself back into some shoes I left behind some time ago. Quite frankly, El Jefe, I worked under all kinds; and the current Democrat alternative to John McCain frightens the professional hell out of me.
It has nothing to do with the man’s color, his comparative youth, his background, his experience or lack thereof, his education, his sense of patriotism, or his party affiliation. What I am doing is looking deep into the political shadows behind him, and I do not like what I see in those shadows. I fear quite strongly that this man may be influenced too often by those behind him, by the type of rabid ideologue who seeks power for power’s sake and who, in the past, would likely have neutered me and mine for political reasons and then blamed us if the blood-thirsty bastards with the bombs and guns were not caught.
So, I say to you, El Jefe, my invisible friend, think long and hard about your intended course of action come November 4. Be careful that you, too, do not make a wrong turn. It just might cost you…and your roommate, and me, and a whole lot of other good people.
Think not about what you see now but what you have seen in the not too distant past. Think about being a sailor on the deck of the USS Cole, watching as an unidentified small vessel bears down on your ship and refuses to answer the ship’s hail. You fight the natural urge to strike out against danger and then you hear your officer remind you that you are under strict orders NOT to shoot. Ka-ching!! Chalk up 16 shipmates on that one!
El Jefe, we are in a “war” that will be longer than any of us could ever have imagined. None of us can afford to risk that kind of USS Cole nonsense ever again. Look deeply into the shadows, my friend.
And, then, if you have any religion in you, light a candle for those young men and women who are out there in some corner of this world at this very moment in the dual roles of hunter and hunted. They are fighting virtually unheralded one of the most bizarre and dangerous wars in our history. What they are facing now makes my own past contributions look like a picnic. Their skin colors are white and black and brown and yellow and red; but they all wear the same badge: American courage. I salute every single one of them. We should not do anything to let them down.
September 23rd, 2008 at 5:56 pm
Joe,
Shame on you. This blog allows all comers, including cats.
El Jefe,
I’d like to invite your cat over for dinner, I am making chinese
September 23rd, 2008 at 6:24 pm
mmmmm. . .I love chinese.
September 23rd, 2008 at 6:50 pm
you can keep him jacob. he’s been limping a lot recently, don’t know how much longer he’s got.
September 23rd, 2008 at 9:09 pm
El Jefe will die in his sleep tonight……….
September 23rd, 2008 at 9:55 pm
Promises, promises.
September 23rd, 2008 at 11:00 pm
We done spoiled the cat, is what we did.
September 24th, 2008 at 4:53 am
“Mr. Whiskers, meet Mr. Whiskers.”
September 24th, 2008 at 9:27 am
NOOOOOOOOO! This I simply cannot conceive!
September 24th, 2008 at 7:23 pm
lock and load
September 24th, 2008 at 8:59 pm
Joe, I think I have the right recipe here for you. You take one big flour sack, fill it full of catnip, toss in one or more of our current versions of Mr. Whiskers, give the sack a good shake, throw it in the back of your pickup, and drive out to the home of Bulletproof Monk, where one can probably find rather easily a den full of hungry coyotes. As I recall, coyotes just love cat meat. Oh shoot, now I’ll have PETA after me! Just kidding, just kidding, just kid….Gotta get off these blogs!!! Gonna go back to Africa and hug a crocodile. It would be easier.
September 24th, 2008 at 10:18 pm
Actually, I have a friend with some coyote problems. We could use the cat as bait, and blast ‘em when they come to get it.
September 24th, 2008 at 10:23 pm
Hey, hey, ixnay on the itty-kay ait-bay. Mr. Whiskers deserves a little tenderness, too. As long as he keeps his paws off the blog.
September 24th, 2008 at 11:28 pm
hiss
September 24th, 2008 at 11:34 pm
Hey Mr. Whiskers,
I know I should not encourage you, but after a couple glasses of the vino I guess I’m lowering my standards:
I read recently that fancy cat foods are strictly a marketing ploy, that if they were really designed for cats the flavors would be like “dead raw mouse” rather than “grilled turkey in gravy.” What say you?
September 24th, 2008 at 11:36 pm
I’ve heard poodles make the best bait. They yap.
September 24th, 2008 at 11:47 pm
jack, I have heard that coyotes too are boycotting french food. A tender young Maltese might be preferred.
Joe, should this be served with a red or a white ?
September 25th, 2008 at 2:14 am
These presidential elections are just too darn long. We’re all goin’ nuts!
October 6th, 2008 at 12:42 pm
John,
I hear your reasons for not supporting Barack Obama. So allow me to ask you this question, who are you supporting? Will you support a McCain/Palin ticket? I am interesting to see who you would support since Obama is so bad for African American community.
Thank you.
Oh and by the way, I am an undecided voter.
October 7th, 2008 at 4:01 pm
So please someone help me understand. Since you claim Barack Obama is not from a line of slaves he is not worth voting for…..I’m sure you sat back one day and just trace that to make sure you were right….NOT. ….but rather Mccain is because he is white and even though 9 times out of 10 he is from a line of slave owners this makes him the real deal and worthy to be our president. Personally I dont care if he came from slaves or not….. because history shows clearly that our AFRICAN PEOPLE sold each other into slavery and that is that…….Hell for all you know it could be your blood line that did…..but if you are an person of faith you would soon realize that we all stem from the same bloodline at some point in history….for life started somewhere at some point. We are all guity of slavery and our history at some point ……and the thought of us being united as one through all that separates us as a people is beautiful…..I find myself taking up for this man on these issues because it is pathetic to read the things that people say about their own AMERICAN FAMILY…..we will never be united as an nation if we can not be united as an people…..if you want to down the man do it on his non experience not his non blackness…..I am still undecided right now because yes I agree with alot of MCcain issues ….but I am drawn to the beauty of what
BARACK represents and that is hope…..
October 7th, 2008 at 5:03 pm
Take up for him, personally, all you want.
We are in two wars — in Afghanistan and in Iraq. We are facing severe economic crisis brought on by government interference in the housing market. McCain foresaw this problem, and tried to solve it. The Democrats thwarted that effort.
We need someone with experience, who has worked across the aisle repeatedly, in these times. We do not need an inexperienced nobody.
October 9th, 2008 at 11:43 pm
as a black woman, who is equally proud of my country, as I am my heritage, I must say, Sarah Palin represents “hope” for me, much more than Obama does. She comes across as genuine and true. That being said, whether Obama is as bad as some say, or not, there are just too many questionable items in his past for my comfort. I honestly believe,from the bottom of my heart, the man is not who he makes himself out to be. That much I’m confident about.
October 10th, 2008 at 5:11 pm
If you have studied History you will learn that
Hitler and his group “The Nazi Party” which they renamed “National and Socialist German Workers Party” their party failed at first try and they were jailed.Hitler wrote a book in prison called Mein Kampf. Once all were released from prison the party was radically reconstructed. This was referred to as the ‘Golden Years’ Hitler extreme views were not popular within this period.
The Wall Street Crash of 1929 provided a spark that allowed Nazi’s to gain control.The economy was in crisis the government was struggling to control the economy, people were looking for any alternative and willing to listen to Hitler and the communist party for a solution to the crisis. By 1933 Hitler was had gained power, his speeches were inspiring, he was a great public speaker who could enthuse the masses and ignite a sense of belief, the party was very organized, his policies made sense, he made promises that would benefit all sectors of population.
Who does this sound like to you? Don’t think it can’t happen in America! Blacks and whites are falling prey to the worse disaster this country has ever known! He has used black and white’s in Hollywood for their monies and connections to viewing audiences. He is following Hitler’s
agenda except all Christians will be killed,
if you are not a part of the Sharia Law you
will die! Holocaust will not compare to how bad it will be in America if Obama is in office.
You will loose your head in the name of Allah at the mention of Jesus name! This is not a black/white or republican/democrat issue we are talking about an American issue!
Obama’s sole purpose is for the rise of Islam
in America!
Pray, pray, pray for this country!