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	<title>Comments on: Raza studies gives rise to racial hostility</title>
	<link>http://novatownhall.com/2008/05/24/raza-studies-gives-rise-to-racial-hostility/</link>
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	<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 11:56:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: this is for the raza</title>
		<link>http://novatownhall.com/2008/05/24/raza-studies-gives-rise-to-racial-hostility/#comment-6345</link>
		<dc:creator>this is for the raza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 02:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 2008 by joe. Courtesy of reader and former Arizona resident Lynn is a pretty amazing story from ...http://novatownhall.com/2008/05/24/raza-studies-gives-rise-to-racial-hostility/ONE FOR THE MONEY,TWO FOR THE SHOW...http://www.razauno.com/S. H. Raza - Wikipedia, the free [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] 2008 by joe. Courtesy of reader and former Arizona resident Lynn is a pretty amazing story from &#8230;http://novatownhall.com/2008/05/24/raza-studies-gives-rise-to-racial-hostility/ONE FOR THE MONEY,TWO FOR THE SHOW&#8230;http://www.razauno.com/S. H. Raza - Wikipedia, the free [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: dan</title>
		<link>http://novatownhall.com/2008/05/24/raza-studies-gives-rise-to-racial-hostility/#comment-6145</link>
		<dc:creator>dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 15:26:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://novatownhall.com/2008/05/24/raza-studies-gives-rise-to-racial-hostility/#comment-6145</guid>
		<description>opps, brain out paced my fingers..

"The xenophiles believe that our ecosystem is secondary to welcoming those here illegally."

That's what I get for typing with my hair on fire..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>opps, brain out paced my fingers..</p>
<p>&#8220;The xenophiles believe that our ecosystem is secondary to welcoming those here illegally.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s what I get for typing with my hair on fire..</p>
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		<title>By: dan</title>
		<link>http://novatownhall.com/2008/05/24/raza-studies-gives-rise-to-racial-hostility/#comment-6144</link>
		<dc:creator>dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 15:23:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://novatownhall.com/2008/05/24/raza-studies-gives-rise-to-racial-hostility/#comment-6144</guid>
		<description>JTB-

"Look, I lived just across the Border from Mexico for several years when I lived in San Diego and I did not see a disproportionate number of criminals, gangs, or Bush’s “evil-doers” among either the legal or illegal Mexicans that I encountered."

It is common knowledge that many of the drugs in the US enter through our southern border with Mexico. Did you see any of this ? 

Sounds like the point you are making is simply "I  didn't see it, so therefore it doesn't exist".

The problem with illegal immigration is not xenophobes. A big problem with illegal immigration is xenophiles.

 It is the xenophiles that have positioned themselves as accessories after the fact, giving the illegals support and political shelter.

It is the xenophiles who fail to admit that we already have great difficulty dealing with the preexisting poverty in this country, and feel that welcoming further poverty across the border with open arms is the right thing to do. 

It is the xenophiles who believe that the tax dollar pool is a bottom-less pit, and as such, public aid should be extended to those here illegally.

The xenophiles believe that "We The People", are to be treated as second class citizens in our own country, in deference to  those here illegally.

The xenophiles believe that our borders should be "come and go as you see fit", exposing us to further crime, disease, and further overcrowding. 

The xenophiles believe that welcoming those here illegally is secondary to our ecosystem. Simply put, some estimates put the number of illegals between 20 and 30 million. 20 million is roughly the equivalent of 2 1/2 New York Cities, 30 is roughly 3.75. This is a tremendous impact upon our environment, and the xenophiles wish to broaden this with their open borders policy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JTB-</p>
<p>&#8220;Look, I lived just across the Border from Mexico for several years when I lived in San Diego and I did not see a disproportionate number of criminals, gangs, or Bush’s “evil-doers” among either the legal or illegal Mexicans that I encountered.&#8221;</p>
<p>It is common knowledge that many of the drugs in the US enter through our southern border with Mexico. Did you see any of this ? </p>
<p>Sounds like the point you are making is simply &#8220;I  didn&#8217;t see it, so therefore it doesn&#8217;t exist&#8221;.</p>
<p>The problem with illegal immigration is not xenophobes. A big problem with illegal immigration is xenophiles.</p>
<p> It is the xenophiles that have positioned themselves as accessories after the fact, giving the illegals support and political shelter.</p>
<p>It is the xenophiles who fail to admit that we already have great difficulty dealing with the preexisting poverty in this country, and feel that welcoming further poverty across the border with open arms is the right thing to do. </p>
<p>It is the xenophiles who believe that the tax dollar pool is a bottom-less pit, and as such, public aid should be extended to those here illegally.</p>
<p>The xenophiles believe that &#8220;We The People&#8221;, are to be treated as second class citizens in our own country, in deference to  those here illegally.</p>
<p>The xenophiles believe that our borders should be &#8220;come and go as you see fit&#8221;, exposing us to further crime, disease, and further overcrowding. </p>
<p>The xenophiles believe that welcoming those here illegally is secondary to our ecosystem. Simply put, some estimates put the number of illegals between 20 and 30 million. 20 million is roughly the equivalent of 2 1/2 New York Cities, 30 is roughly 3.75. This is a tremendous impact upon our environment, and the xenophiles wish to broaden this with their open borders policy.</p>
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		<title>By: jacob</title>
		<link>http://novatownhall.com/2008/05/24/raza-studies-gives-rise-to-racial-hostility/#comment-6142</link>
		<dc:creator>jacob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 13:56:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://novatownhall.com/2008/05/24/raza-studies-gives-rise-to-racial-hostility/#comment-6142</guid>
		<description>Tyler B.
Those in the past complained that we had immigrants.  Today we just want them to be legal.    For this we are called racist. 

In the post 9/11 age we know what happens when you allow someone to overstay their visa, or get in the country illegally.  Al Aqaeda says they want to infiltrate the country to inflict more havoc.

This is a time of war, it is an asymmetrical war, which means we do not see front lines of millions of troops shooting at each other.  This is a blessing and a curse.  The blessing is we do not have the tens of thousands of causualties that come with that.  The curse is the public begins to think 'What war?'

What we have is a global guerrilla war and the results have a huge potential down side.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tyler B.<br />
Those in the past complained that we had immigrants.  Today we just want them to be legal.    For this we are called racist. </p>
<p>In the post 9/11 age we know what happens when you allow someone to overstay their visa, or get in the country illegally.  Al Aqaeda says they want to infiltrate the country to inflict more havoc.</p>
<p>This is a time of war, it is an asymmetrical war, which means we do not see front lines of millions of troops shooting at each other.  This is a blessing and a curse.  The blessing is we do not have the tens of thousands of causualties that come with that.  The curse is the public begins to think &#8216;What war?&#8217;</p>
<p>What we have is a global guerrilla war and the results have a huge potential down side.</p>
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		<title>By: J. Tyler Ballance</title>
		<link>http://novatownhall.com/2008/05/24/raza-studies-gives-rise-to-racial-hostility/#comment-6140</link>
		<dc:creator>J. Tyler Ballance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 12:32:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://novatownhall.com/2008/05/24/raza-studies-gives-rise-to-racial-hostility/#comment-6140</guid>
		<description>Look, I lived just across the Border from Mexico for several years when I lived in San Diego and I did not see a disproportionate number of criminals, gangs, or Bush's "evil-doers" among either the legal or illegal Mexicans that I encountered.

It seems that every race of people has its nutty fringe, including xenophobes, so we needn't be alarmed that Mexicans have LaRaza, MeChA (racist groups) and the MS13 drug gang. 

The Negroes have the racist, NAACP and Urban League, along with the Crips and the Bloods drug gangs. 

Certainly some members of these racist groups hate White people, but we would be wrong to conclude that all of their members take that position. Neither should we infer that members of an entire race are guilty of the same racism extolled by the NAACP, merely through guilt by race association.

As for our exploding wave of migrants, until we start voting the bums out of office who support illegal immigration, and punish those who hire them, this will only get worse.

While these folks are here, our civic associations and churches should all be working to provide courses in language and citizenship so that we can teach these new folks how to become good Americans.

The same rhetoric being used by the anti-migrant complainers today was said about their own Irish, Polish, German, Asian and African forefathers. 

We can force our politicians to secure our borders, but we will still have a large population of new migrants here. The best approach is to get involved and teach these new folks good hygiene and how to become good, American citizens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look, I lived just across the Border from Mexico for several years when I lived in San Diego and I did not see a disproportionate number of criminals, gangs, or Bush&#8217;s &#8220;evil-doers&#8221; among either the legal or illegal Mexicans that I encountered.</p>
<p>It seems that every race of people has its nutty fringe, including xenophobes, so we needn&#8217;t be alarmed that Mexicans have LaRaza, MeChA (racist groups) and the MS13 drug gang. </p>
<p>The Negroes have the racist, NAACP and Urban League, along with the Crips and the Bloods drug gangs. </p>
<p>Certainly some members of these racist groups hate White people, but we would be wrong to conclude that all of their members take that position. Neither should we infer that members of an entire race are guilty of the same racism extolled by the NAACP, merely through guilt by race association.</p>
<p>As for our exploding wave of migrants, until we start voting the bums out of office who support illegal immigration, and punish those who hire them, this will only get worse.</p>
<p>While these folks are here, our civic associations and churches should all be working to provide courses in language and citizenship so that we can teach these new folks how to become good Americans.</p>
<p>The same rhetoric being used by the anti-migrant complainers today was said about their own Irish, Polish, German, Asian and African forefathers. </p>
<p>We can force our politicians to secure our borders, but we will still have a large population of new migrants here. The best approach is to get involved and teach these new folks good hygiene and how to become good, American citizens.</p>
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		<title>By: jacob</title>
		<link>http://novatownhall.com/2008/05/24/raza-studies-gives-rise-to-racial-hostility/#comment-6139</link>
		<dc:creator>jacob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 12:05:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe,
but don't you get it? 
1. YOU, as a white heterosexual, Christian male, are the ONLY racist.  
2. The fact that you love your country, and want to see it enforce its own laws only proves that YOU are a racist.
3. That you have read history and know that a nation that looses control of its own borders soon ceases being a nation also proves that YOU are a racist.
4. That you realize that when someone who enters your house not through the front, but, through the basement window should be escorted off the premises proves
a. that YOU are a racist, because it is not your house because other racists like you stole it
b. that YOU are a racist because you actually have the never to put a front door on the house

Shame on you Joe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe,<br />
but don&#8217;t you get it?<br />
1. YOU, as a white heterosexual, Christian male, are the ONLY racist.<br />
2. The fact that you love your country, and want to see it enforce its own laws only proves that YOU are a racist.<br />
3. That you have read history and know that a nation that looses control of its own borders soon ceases being a nation also proves that YOU are a racist.<br />
4. That you realize that when someone who enters your house not through the front, but, through the basement window should be escorted off the premises proves<br />
a. that YOU are a racist, because it is not your house because other racists like you stole it<br />
b. that YOU are a racist because you actually have the never to put a front door on the house</p>
<p>Shame on you Joe.</p>
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