Pro-Life Nutjobs!
June 16th, 2008 by ACTivist
In the communist Post today was a story about faith based drugstores starting to crop up around the states. One will actually be opening soon in Chantilly. This is nothing more that an alternative to your society stores that also carry the profanity magazines as well “other” sexual aids. Here in part is the article.
“The United States was founded on the idea that people act on their conscience-that they have a sense of right and wrong and do what they think is right and moral” said Tom Brejcha, president and chief counsel at the Thomas More Society, a Chicago public interest law firm that was fined and reprimanded for refusing to fill prescriptions for birth control pills. “Every pharmicist has the right to do the same thing,” Brejcha said.
But critics say the stores could create dangerous obstacles for women seeking legal, safe and widely used birth control methods. “I’m very, very troubled by this,” said Marcia Greenberger of the National Women’s Law Center, a Washington advocacy group. “Contraception is essential for women’s health. A pharmacy like this is walling off an essential part of health care. That could endanger women’s health.”
Say WHAT? This is liberal speak for ” we got to ban guns because they are a public health risk.” Yeh, I get it. Here’s more.
Some pro-life pharmicies are identical to typical drugstores except that they do not stock some or all forms of contraception. Others also refuse to sell tobacco, rolling papers or pornography.
Some critics question how such pharmicies justify carrying drugs, such as Viagra, for male reproduction issues, but not those for women. “Why do you care about the sexual health of men but not women?” asked Anita L. Nelson, a professor of obstetrics and gynecology at the David Geffen School of Medicine at UCLA. “If he gets his Viagra, why can’t she get her contraception?”
Viagra is a contraceptive? Oh, please tell me it’s not soooooo!
“in general, I think product differentiation expressive of differing value is a very good thing for a free, pluralistic society,” said Loren E. Lomasky, a bioethicist at the University of Virginia in Charlottesville. “If we can have 20 different brands of toothpaste, why not a few different conception of how pharmicies ought to operate?”
Others maintain that pharmicists, like other professionals, have a responsibility to put their patients’ needs ahead of their of their personal beliefs. “If you are a health care professional, you are bound by professional obligations,” said Nancy Berlinger, deputy director of the Hastins Center, a bioethics think tank in Garrison, N.Y. “You can’t say you won’t do part of that profession.”
Excuse me? You mean that anyone that takes the hippocratic oathe should violate the oathe and their own beliefs so that you could, say, have an abortion because it is legal to do so?
What is being said from the opposition is that they want it their way. How dare we try to have any morals or seek to cater to a specific group. Get this:
Critics also worry that women might unsuspectingly seek contraceptives at such a store and be humiliated, or that women NEEDING the morning-after pill, which is most effective when used quickly, may waste PRECIOUS time. “Rape victims could end up in a pharmacy not understanding this pharmacy will not meet their needs,” Greenberger said. STOP! What is a rape victim doing in a pharmacy? They should be at the hospital or police station. Rape is a crime-not a wound in need of some antiseptic and a band-aid! Continue. “ We’ve seen an alarming developement of pharmicists over the last several years refusing to fill precriptions…” (What kind of prescriptions would that be?)
You get the gist. Now let the fun begin. I say if you’re Chik-filet and you don’t want to do business on Sunday for religious reasons then GOD bless you!
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June 16th, 2008 at 4:00 pm
“If he gets his Viagra, why can’t she get her contraception?”
It’s quite simple, really: Viagra helps something work as it was designed to, while birth control stops something from working as designed.
June 16th, 2008 at 4:44 pm
jack and ACTivist
I’m astounded! Either you don’t have sex at all, or only to make babies, or you or your partners are infertile.
Viagra enables men to have sex when they can’t do it on their own power.
Birthcontrol enables women to have sex without fear of pregnancy which, in and of itself, makes them more willing partners.
Men don’t have to go around waiting for their period!
June 16th, 2008 at 6:17 pm
Faith based drug store ? Which faith ? Will women shoppers be required to wear head scarves ?
June 16th, 2008 at 7:27 pm
Jack’s preferred form of birth-control is spending all his free time trashing non-white ethnic and cultural groups.
June 16th, 2008 at 7:29 pm
“I say if you’re Chik-filet and you don’t want to do business on Sunday for religious reasons then GOD bless you!”
The irony of course being that every restaurant is packed around lunchtime on Sunday with churchgoers.
June 16th, 2008 at 9:37 pm
Dan,
DMC as it is known is a Catholic run business. No head scarves. They might even sell the Bible in the stores. Who knows.
NoVisa,
Rhythm method. And if you like it that often then you might think about sterilization.
June 16th, 2008 at 9:42 pm
Tom,
You might just be too young, otherwise you aren’t of old tradition. Va. as many other states had blue laws which prohibited businesses being open on Sunday except for those that were a necessity. You had family dinners after church. It was what Sundays were all about-family and togetherness as well as enjoying your day of rest. Even mentioning the irony of it tells much.
June 16th, 2008 at 9:50 pm
ACT, ok, if it is Catholic run, that answers my next question, will they have beer and wine..
June 16th, 2008 at 10:16 pm
ACTivist
I DO like rhythm - but not as birthcontrol!
June 16th, 2008 at 10:19 pm
Dan,
Wine maybe. No beer. Definitely whiskey!
June 16th, 2008 at 10:26 pm
NoVisa,
I’m not Catholic and I don’t believe that condoms for married couples isn’t bad. But then again it wouldn’t be killing cells forming a new human. It does make sex “convienient” and it should never be seen as that (sex that is). Regardless, it is a refreshing change to get back to traditional values. There are already 4 states trying to enact laws to FORCE these pharmacies to sell ALL goods. Can you guess which states they are? Hint: think liberal and flakey!
June 16th, 2008 at 10:32 pm
I remember Blue Laws, does that mean I’ll be seeing ya soon at the Seniors Center ACT ?
I also remember when you could not be served a drink while standing in Virginia..
June 16th, 2008 at 10:53 pm
dan,
You’ll be joining me there! Bwahaha!
June 16th, 2008 at 10:59 pm
ACT, think that’s what I said..
Go change your Depends..
June 17th, 2008 at 7:04 am
Actually, I remember Blue Laws very well, and expect to encounter them again this Summer — in Nova Scotia.
June 17th, 2008 at 7:22 am
Oh, yes, Blue Laws -
Coming here from California in the early 70s was total culture shock. Beer was hidden behind a plastic curtain, six-packs had to be put in a paperbag, I guess so as not to tempt others.
One day we decided on the spur of the moment to make a Sunday excursion and wanted to buy some beer. Sorry, not beer sales on Sunday until after 12 noon!
Standing up drinking? For shame! One couldn’t even carry one’s own drink from one table to another.
ABC stores where you had to tell the clerk what you wanted. You were not allowed behind the counter!
That’s the way it was.
June 17th, 2008 at 7:25 am
Kalifornia? That explains a lot.
June 17th, 2008 at 7:32 am
What’s with the “K”, Jack? And what does it explain?
June 17th, 2008 at 8:16 am
Because the Cyrillic “C” makes an “S” sound.
And it explains you liberal outlook.
June 17th, 2008 at 8:19 am
What’s the big deal with having this new pharmacy anyway? So they don’t sell birth control. Who cares? Every grocery store in the area has a pharmacy that does, not to mention Wal-Mart, Target, Costco, Sams, etc. It’s not like theres no other option here people. Aren’t we supposed to be a free market society? Let this store cater to the sector of the market it wants to, and just go somewhere else for birth control - CVS, Eckerd…really it’s quite a long list.
Maybe the other stores are just afraid of competition! There could be more of those “values” people out there than they previously expected!
June 17th, 2008 at 10:36 am
ACJ,
“Let this store cater to the sector of the market it wants to, and just go somewhere else for birth control - CVS, Eckerd…really it’s quite a long list.”
That is the point exactly. Unfortunately, whacko states like Washington, California, New Jersey and Illinois already have lawsuits going because their rights to getting birthcontrol from EVERYWHERE is being infringed. And because of this lunacy is the reason these stores and others like them will come about.
June 17th, 2008 at 10:41 am
NoVisa,
Culture shock? Let me pose this: if it was too much for you and there doesn’t seem to be enough liberals around here to sate your appetite, what the hell are you still doing here? If it’s for the kids, that’s lame. If it’s for the money then there is a name for that. You DO things because it’s comfortable and it is what you WANT to do (other than blogging with airheads-it works both ways). So what IS your reason?
June 17th, 2008 at 11:00 am
ACT,
With all respect brother, Lovisa’s reason is none of our business.
June 17th, 2008 at 11:22 am
Jacob,
It is the point that people have the audasity to come here from somewhere else then complain about why it is like this instead of like what they are used to where they came from. That was a BIG deal in Europe with Americans thinking they owned the host country that they were guests in. Same with Yankees in the south. Same with new homeowners that move into an area and once they buy their home, ALL other home-building needs to stop! I just get fed up with this take-over mentality. I don’t like homosexual marraiges so I don’t live in Mass. (or now Calif.). I don’t like the cold so I don’t live up north. I like my gun ownership so I don’t live in D.C. or Illinois. See how that works? Yeh, I would think I deserve an understanding why the whinning is coming about. But, NoVisa, if you feel that it isn’t my business like Jacob states, then you tell me to kiss-off.
June 17th, 2008 at 3:17 pm
ACT,
When the Lovisa types whine about ‘why aint VA like CA’, I am usually one the first to mock them for being whiny.
But their reasons for why they are here, as opposed to there ain’t my concern. I am just trying to get them to see how ridiculous it is to expect the great state of VA to act like the granola state of CA. CA is full flakes, nuts and dried up old fruits.
June 17th, 2008 at 10:00 pm
Jacob,
And now they and other states are infiltrating Va. for the big change. What state has a putz governor and senator that gets on stage with an empty suit named Obama? Virginia. What state wants to keep people from having guns on campus when they just had a major disaster that could have been curtailed WITH armed students/teachers? And then use it as a shameless “ban” push? Virginia. What state is now pushing to give back voting rights to convicts so that it is easier to get off for future crimes when you vote in more bleeding heart liberals? Virginia. Wanna bet that there will be a liberal lawsuit againest the pro-life pharmacy about to open in Chantilly, Virginia? The Old Dominion is becoming VERY INFECTED!
June 17th, 2008 at 10:11 pm
ACTor,
I agree with the idea of free commerce and the right to run whatever type of pharmacy you please, to be sure. I don’t think contraceptives are the same as Viagra, but I don’t think there’s anything wrong with contraceptives. Whatev, as long as there are alternatives. What could be better than the freedom of choice, right? You shop here, I’ll shop there, etc.
But to be against the voting rights of convicts is just plain stupid.
June 17th, 2008 at 10:21 pm
“But to be against the voting rights of convicts is just plain stupid.”
Is this an adhominem attack? You create a game. You make rules for that game. When those rules are violated then penalties are doled out. You have laws. Breaking those laws carry penalties. When you know what the penalties are and you break the law regardless, why would someone excuse it and say “I was only kidding” or “that’s okay. We’ll just keep giving you more chances.” Makes penalizing bad behavior moot. It was your initial remark that was stupid. Try thinking things thru onetime.
June 18th, 2008 at 6:16 am
Kevin, committing a felony is stupid. Why would you want people voting who have proven themselves to be poor decision-makers?
June 18th, 2008 at 6:20 am
Hey ACTivist, if you think Virginia is becoming “infected” with liberals, why don’t you move?
June 18th, 2008 at 7:39 am
Sound advice, zimzo. And I intend to move away from rabid northern Virginia. But I am a Virginian and I refuse to give up my state to wanna-neverbes. Just like I would never retreat from America because of the illegal infestation. But thanks for raising the thought!
June 18th, 2008 at 8:58 am
We refer to northern Virginia as “Yankee-occupied Virginia.”
June 18th, 2008 at 11:26 am
If we can just keep moving the Mason-Dixon line south, we’ll soon be the color of the sky and the ocean!
June 18th, 2008 at 2:06 pm
Jack,
Nothing wrong with Yankees per say bubb.
June 18th, 2008 at 2:56 pm
Just the no-good carpet-baggin’ Yankee trash.
June 18th, 2008 at 4:05 pm
ACTor,
“Is this an adhominem attack?”>> It’s no ad hominem attack (as though that would be the worst thing in history anyways). The sooner everyone starts looking at crime as a public health problem, the sooner we will reach enlightenment.
Jack,
You would take an already marginalized group of people, marginalize them more, and then wonder why they can’t just get it together? You bet. Any felon with the wherewithal and drive to get it together and PARTICIPATE in a functional society (rather than against) should be encouraged to vote. You betcha. Seriously. Even Saul/Paul, King David, Moses, etc. all turned it around. Yep, you bet. It’s a little ridiculous to further isolate someone from belonging and contributing to society and then ask them to give a damn. Besides, even if I fought for the rest of my life to win Virginia felons the right to vote, the system isn’t set up to encourage them to reintegrate in any meaningful way anyways so it likely wouldn’t occur to them. Your fears, in your argument, are greatly out of proportion, trust me.
June 18th, 2008 at 4:37 pm
ACTivist yesterday at 11:22am
You seem to forget that I was talking abt coming here in the 70s. It WAS backwards. Virginia tends to be slow in getting with the program, as it were. The state didn’t ratify the 19th amendment (suffrage) until 1952; only 7 states came later; all southern.
It was not by choice that we moved here. Maybe you’re, as they say, independently wealthy and don’t have to rely on a monthly income from an employer, thus are able to leave a place when you don’t like it.
A job transfer brought us here; we adjusted gradually and thanks to the development of the Dulles corridor and the people it brought with it, Northern Virginia is coming into the 21st century. I like living here now.
We didn’t expect Virginia to be like California but were surprised that an area so close to the capital of the most important country in the world could have stood still or, rather, moved so slowly with the times.
Virginia closed public schools rather than obey the Supreme Court decision for integration of the schools. Virginia also was No. 50 in voter registration at the time we came here. In our town, one could register at the local library once a month between six and eight at night.
Of course, I feel that it is none of your business why I’m here. Told you anyway.
- You seem very averse to change judging from the way you write, I’m wondering whether you’ve ever lived anywhere but in Virginia. But that’s not my business
June 18th, 2008 at 9:52 pm
NoVisa,
The south used to be slow like that. Know why? Cause we aren’t in a hurry. We tend to enjoy life more-kinda savor the flavor. I’m just an old country boy and that is exactly my cup of tea.
I have lived in many states, be in and thru all but 2 and lived overseas for awhile. Virginia is and always will be my home. When I first moved into Loudoun (Sterling) I was coming from Vienna. We had a Jack in the Box and a Safeway. Mike Wallace told the nation on 60 Minutes that Loudoun was 150 years behind the times. That is exactly why I moved out of Fairfax-get closer to what I’m used to. Didn’t last. And, yes, I even lived in California in 3 different places (and not because I wanted to. In tow with my dad).
“You seem very averse to change judging from the way you write,”
You bet. You hit the nail on the head. That is why I am a conservative. When something works I tend to leave it alone. I don’t believe in change for change sake.
June 18th, 2008 at 10:20 pm
Kiddin,
Why do you liberals need to tag everything as a “public health problem”? Does it give it more importance or credibility? When you are prone to criminal acts, prices have to be paid. If there were not death penalties you don’t think there would be a rise in violent crime? I could claim that you are a public health problem. If you want “enlightenment”, meditate. Then come to the table making sense (if you think you can).
“Your fears, in your argument, are greatly out of proportion, trust me.”
The fears you speak of start from an innocent (or foolish) belief. Like global warming or guns will kill your family if you own one. Then you seal the deal by putting “trust me” at the end. No thanks.
June 18th, 2008 at 10:23 pm
Jacob,
I will always give grace to level-headed Yankees. I have known and even liked a couple. You’re okay. Just don’t try to sell me something!
June 18th, 2008 at 11:44 pm
ACTor,
“Like global warming or guns will kill your family if you own one.”>>as if that had anything to do with anything I wrote. If you want to attack “liberals” rather than use your brain for a moment, that’s fine. You must not know any felons.
“If there were not death penalties you don’t think there would be a rise in violent crime?”>>you must not know any felons.
“When you are prone to criminal acts, prices have to be paid.”>>who is saying they don’t? Why is losing the right to vote (something they may not have cared about in the first place) such a punishment, in your view? As I said, if someone convicted of a felony could develop the character to value participating productively in society, isn’t that something you would want to encourage rather than discourage? You make no sense.
Does tagging crime as a public health problem give it more importance or credibility? I have absolutely no idea, I’ve never even thought about it that way. It’s late now but when I get the chance I’ll go into my reasoning a little more. Though I don’t expect it will make any sense to you at all. It will, after all, be labeled “liberal” and therefore be discounted before I even begin.
June 19th, 2008 at 6:50 am
“Why is losing the right to vote such a punishment…?”
Because being a convicted felon demonstrates poor judgement. With such poor judgement, is it any wonder that most felons vote for Democrats?
June 19th, 2008 at 11:31 am
Kiddin’,
“Like global warming or guns will kill your family if you own one.”>>as if that had anything to do with anything I wrote.”
It does. Both are considered “public health problems” by your ilk.
“It’s late now but when I get the chance I’ll go into my reasoning a little more. Though I don’t expect it will make any sense to you at all. It will, after all, be labeled “liberal” and therefore be discounted before I even begin.”
Your reasoning doesn’t have to make sense to me as long as it makes sense to you. I am trying, like you are, to show a different mindset and approach as well as logic. You have been falling short. That’s all. I can’t discount anything before I hear or see it so you have little faith or respect in me as a person. I would only tag you as a liberal when your views coincide with that of a liberal. Now if you cannot understand what I have just said then it shows you have predisposed my position-and yours!
June 19th, 2008 at 3:52 pm
“Because being a convicted felon demonstrates poor judgement. With such poor judgement, is it any wonder that most felons vote for Democrats?”
ROFL!
June 19th, 2008 at 10:07 pm
Keep your faith out of my life and I will do the same respectfully
June 19th, 2008 at 10:20 pm
HeyZeus,
How do you feel about birth control?
June 19th, 2008 at 11:47 pm
BJ,
“Keep your faith out of my life and I will do the same respectfully”
Sorry. No can do. Christians are called upon to preach the gospel, publicly. ‘A lamp is not kept under a basket’.
How about this, I promise to preach it respectfully. That is about the best I can do. BTW that does not mean the truth won’t offend you.
June 20th, 2008 at 7:33 am
The truth offends most liberals, Jacob.