“by conceding my last point you are really saying that experience really doesn’t matter in your selection”
I misread ’state legislator’ and saw Governor, I am tired. My bad. Conceded, due to my laxity in this. Point jefe.

“what is the big issue with mccain?”
If you mean why I am not a big fan?

My grammar in the comments is bad. I usually read better too.

enjoy your show, your candidate ought to be 12 points ahead by tomorrow.

second, i’m glad to see someone so slack in their writing and they may exceed me in grammatical errors.

now, time for the show.

second, i’m glad to see someone so slack in their writing and they may exceed me in grammatical errors.

now, time for the show.

‘this ‘experience’ and ‘foreign policy’ argument is really nonsense. they said it about w, clinton, i imagine reagan (though i was too young, but i know the extremist view stuff came up), and i’m certain about carter.’
Ok. With Clinton it really did not matter. We where done with the old cold war, and the new one with Jihadist Islam had yet to ramp up. I do not recall it making ANY impact during that campaign because while he was a neophyte, the stakes where low, so we thought.

For Reagan it did not come up because Carter was an idiot.

For Carter, it did not come up all that much because we where in a post Vietnam-60’s hangover. We were dealing with inflation, and there was a malaise after Nixon. Carter managed to rehabilitate Nixon’s image. I thought that would have been impossible, but with Carter there was always the audacity of dope. Its been a long time, so you may have forgotten, but Carter seriously pissed off HIS OWN PARTY.

“no matter your politics, you would say some were good, some were terrible. ”
Agreed.

“i’m convinced experience really doesn’t matter,”
Of course you do, you are an Obama supporter. Look, think. Bush sr. was mediocre on a good day. But he was a foreign policy wonk. That is why his coalition was far more splendiforous than his sons. He KNEW the people in the stae department, not only his appointees, but the career guys. He KNEW the people on the other end of the line. Experience in foreign policy historically has matter hugely. For you to say otherwise means you are grasping at straws.

“obama’s an extremely intelligent guy who will surround himself with experienced advisors.”
Obama is bright, but the Democrats available to give advise are the ones who served under Clinton, like Gorelick. LOL. Look, you need a Sam Nunn, and I don’t see him coming out of retirement.

“correct me if i’m wrong …”
You are not wrong in this regard. I think immigration and security are linked via the open border issue. I want immigration to be legal. I want to KNOW who is coming into this country. go read …
http://novatownhall.com/2008/05/12/time-for-a-party-iii/

and follow the links, you will see what I think of McCain.

Welcome to the site el hefty.

this ‘experience’ and ‘foreign policy’ argument is really nonsense. they said it about w, clinton, i imagine reagan (though i was too young, but i know the extremist view stuff came up), and i’m certain about carter. no matter your politics, you would say some were good, some were terrible. and i know all of these guys ran states, but really each of them is known for policy accomplishments and failures. successes usually came from charisma and inate leadership qualities, and a little of lucky timing. i’m convinced experience really doesn’t matter, obama’s an extremely intelligent guy who will surround himself with experienced advisors. it’s really a matter of supporting their policies, and i agree much more with obama than mccain. you clearly don’t.

correct me if i’m wrong, but i think everyone on here would prefer some charasmatic state legislator from virginia that promised to strickly enforce immigration laws, opposed same sex marriage, and ensured everyone could carry a concealed automatic weapon for protection over mccain, even though he has tons of seasoning in foreign and domestic affairs.

“i wish i could share you optimism and be sure obama is going to win this election. i’m pretty concerned.”
For me, that is not optimism, its pessimism. I think Barak needs some seasoning in the Senate and a trip to the governors mansion. He needs to learn how things work outside the confines of the legislative and activist worlds. He has been campaigning all his adult life. He needs to spend some time building/making something. Smart? Yes. Naive? Yes. Understands economics or forign affairs? No.

and i wish i could share you optimism and be sure obama is going to win this election. i’m pretty concerned.

As for blacks and hispanics there is no more Jim Crow. Can we agree on that? Are there knucklheads out there who hate people because of there skin, sure. But the days when such attitudes were socially acceptable are long over. Can we agree on that?

Are we living with the legacy of the bad old days? OK. We have had two generation since MLK did his thing. (I have a dream!) and now a black guy is going to become become president in Nov. How biased are we then as a nation? Not as much as the race baiters like Sharpton would want us to believe. Can we agree on that?

As for the second paragraph, I think McCain will lose, but not for the reasons you cite. I think the previous conversation is more interesting.

the lack of unity now is due to a close primary with two strong candidates, unlike the republicans, which had a about a dozen weak ones that turned out to be a run away. again, i’m guessing that the assault on mccain will come and as his beliefs become more apparent, the hilary voters will come around.

As for the uniqueness of this phenomena, granted, but I think the cry baby factor, considering your three yeses above, is more evident. There are PUMA’s all over the place in Denver. I am NO McCain fan, but I think I am part of a far smaller minority than what is up in the Democrat party.

and i just thought it was a funny thing she said. if you have a candidate that shares the views of the person you supported and your own views, why would you support another candidate that is different in issues that are most important to you?

As for “i like the comment “if you take a narrow view of the issues” then clinton …”
Are you being sarcastic? I can’t tell.

but these supporters of clinton are simply upset they lost something, fairly, that felt they deserved and really should have won. but don’t be too optimistic, by the time of the election and after some coverage of mccain’s jokes, his affair that is as if not more disturbing than edwards’, and his pro-life stance, i think these clinton supporters will do what they expected obama supporters to do…get behind the candidate that supports their positions, and the best candidate.