Comments on: Al Gore: Future Of Civilization Is Guaranteed http://novatownhall.com/2008/11/21/al-gore-future-of-civilization-is-guaranteed/ updated, and a little more mellow Fri, 19 Mar 2010 04:43:39 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Joe Budzinski http://novatownhall.com/2008/11/21/al-gore-future-of-civilization-is-guaranteed/comment-page-1/#comment-16089 Joe Budzinski Sat, 22 Nov 2008 06:37:59 +0000 http://novatownhall.com/2008/11/21/al-gore-future-of-civilization-is-guaranteed/#comment-16089 Dan, I think that is not far from the truth, I think that Al is suggesting the Maya mismanaged the environment as a parallel to the modern day maladies caused by so many people driving SUVs other than Al Gore. Reading the whole article you linked, the study itself does not seem unreasonable. It is certainly possible a population could have depleted a critical resource leading to an eventual environmental cataclysm. Early man did a pretty good job wiping out species in specific areas, witness the paucity of woolly mammoths greeting the Pilgrims. Also the paucity of trees greeting the Pilgrims - the Indians had done a bang up job deforesting the continent (John Berlau's book in the left sidebar covers this history). But it is quite a leap to say, therefore, everyone except Al Gore should stop driving safe vehicles. Dan, I think that is not far from the truth, I think that Al is suggesting the Maya mismanaged the environment as a parallel to the modern day maladies caused by so many people driving SUVs other than Al Gore.

Reading the whole article you linked, the study itself does not seem unreasonable. It is certainly possible a population could have depleted a critical resource leading to an eventual environmental cataclysm. Early man did a pretty good job wiping out species in specific areas, witness the paucity of woolly mammoths greeting the Pilgrims. Also the paucity of trees greeting the Pilgrims – the Indians had done a bang up job deforesting the continent (John Berlau’s book in the left sidebar covers this history).

But it is quite a leap to say, therefore, everyone except Al Gore should stop driving safe vehicles.

]]> By: dans http://novatownhall.com/2008/11/21/al-gore-future-of-civilization-is-guaranteed/comment-page-1/#comment-16088 dans Sat, 22 Nov 2008 05:37:13 +0000 http://novatownhall.com/2008/11/21/al-gore-future-of-civilization-is-guaranteed/#comment-16088 Found this interesting article : http://www.usatoday.com/tech/science/columnist/vergano/2008-11-08-mayan-decline_N.htm Is Al saying the Maya should have given up their SUVs ? Found this interesting article :

http://www.usatoday.com/tech/science/columnist/vergano/2008-11-08-mayan-decline_N.htm

Is Al saying the Maya should have given up their SUVs ?

]]> By: Joe Budzinski http://novatownhall.com/2008/11/21/al-gore-future-of-civilization-is-guaranteed/comment-page-1/#comment-16062 Joe Budzinski Fri, 21 Nov 2008 18:29:03 +0000 http://novatownhall.com/2008/11/21/al-gore-future-of-civilization-is-guaranteed/#comment-16062 Then there was that hiking party on Mt Ranier last year. Climate changed in the middle of their trip and a blizzard blew in. They were lucky to get out alive. Then there was that hiking party on Mt Ranier last year. Climate changed in the middle of their trip and a blizzard blew in. They were lucky to get out alive.

]]> By: Wolverine http://novatownhall.com/2008/11/21/al-gore-future-of-civilization-is-guaranteed/comment-page-1/#comment-16061 Wolverine Fri, 21 Nov 2008 18:23:26 +0000 http://novatownhall.com/2008/11/21/al-gore-future-of-civilization-is-guaranteed/#comment-16061 That thing about the downfall of the Mayan civilization must be pretty good. It happened to my ancestors too. A long time ago, a bunch of them were happy as larks up there in Greenland raising cattle and making good bucks off the sale of hides. Then a weird guy named Albertus Goresson began running around yelling that they were all in big trouble because the climate was changing. Sven Svensson, Ole Olesson, and all those other guys thought he was nuts and locked him up in a stave jail when he demanded that they get rid of their cows and focus on hunting seals. They say, in fact, that Ole had to be restrained physically from performing the first genuine Stonerism on Albertus. Turned out, however that Albertus was spot on. It got so cold up there that the grass died and everybody eventually had to pack it up and go back to old Scandinavia. Darn climate change will get you every time! That thing about the downfall of the Mayan civilization must be pretty good. It happened to my ancestors too. A long time ago, a bunch of them were happy as larks up there in Greenland raising cattle and making good bucks off the sale of hides. Then a weird guy named Albertus Goresson began running around yelling that they were all in big trouble because the climate was changing. Sven Svensson, Ole Olesson, and all those other guys thought he was nuts and locked him up in a stave jail when he demanded that they get rid of their cows and focus on hunting seals. They say, in fact, that Ole had to be restrained physically from performing the first genuine Stonerism on Albertus.

Turned out, however that Albertus was spot on. It got so cold up there that the grass died and everybody eventually had to pack it up and go back to old Scandinavia. Darn climate change will get you every time!

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