82 Responses to “Be Careful What You Ask For …”

1. dans
   February 4th, 2009 @ 3:01 pm

   great graphics, where do you find these ?

2. Wolverine
   February 4th, 2009 @ 10:06 pm

   After the second 100 days, the picture will include a nurse putting a bp cuff on his arm. I’ll bet that MAD drawing is closer to the truth than any of us could immagine.

3. stay puft marshmallow man
   February 5th, 2009 @ 1:12 am

   Nice graphic. It does a great job of setting the tone for the ridiculous, over the top comment that follows.

4. jacob
   February 5th, 2009 @ 8:17 am

   SPaMM,
   Glad you like the graphic. As for your ridiculous over the top assessment of my article, care to point out any inaccuracies? Your knee jerk response has caused me such distress, I am considering sepuku.

5. G. Stone
   February 5th, 2009 @ 9:08 am

   The graphic works.

   This guy is in over his head. He never having ever been an executive is now the most important executive in the world. This job will overwhelm this guy.

   Hope and Change is a bumper sticker. Now it is time to govern and this guy can’t get out of his own way.

   Welcome to Carter 2.0

6. Jack
   February 5th, 2009 @ 10:39 am

   At least Carter had been a naval officer and governor.

7. Cathymac
   February 5th, 2009 @ 11:28 am

   Jack, To that point, I don’t think Carter ever had the “deer in the headlights” look that Obama is starting to exhibit. Not that Carter didn’t make bad decisions, he just didn’t sweat on the outside. Obama is getting soaked.

8. Jack
   February 5th, 2009 @ 11:57 am

   I expected him to soak the rich, not his shorts.

9. Cathymac
   February 5th, 2009 @ 1:16 pm

   Ruth Bader Ginsberg is having surgery for Pancreatic cancer today. This most likely means she won’t be around much longer given the type of cancer and her health history.

   Ginsberg is the one of the most liberal judges on the SC and I am reflecting on the consequences of elections.

10. dans
    February 5th, 2009 @ 1:37 pm

    As fast as his ’stimulus’ plan is losing public support (per Gallup and Rasmussen), has he realized yet the honeymoon is over ?

    Jacob, SP is just being Obama’s number one fan.. ohh the Misery..

11. Lovisa
    February 5th, 2009 @ 2:09 pm

    I’ll miss Justice Ginsburg, should she not make it. Heard on a newscast that she and Scalia are great friends privately. Both are opera buffs>

    Pancreatic cancer is evil! A friend of mine was gone less than 3 wks after surgery at age 55.

12. Cathymac
    February 5th, 2009 @ 3:02 pm

    I believe they caught Ginsberg’s cancer early, but who knows what the prognosis is.

    I have liberal friends and enjoy their company, but I don’t want them in elected office, making policy decisions or anywhere near the Judiciary.

13. G. Stone
    February 5th, 2009 @ 3:27 pm

    “At least Carter had been a naval officer and governor.”

    I remember him as a naval gazer.

14. Prester John
    February 5th, 2009 @ 3:46 pm

    From NRO on line regarding Panetta’s confirmation hearing:

    Panetta just said that if they caught Osama bin Laden, they would find a place to hold him briefly, give him access to the International Red Cross, and use the Army Field Manual to question him.

    If we had followed this policy when Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was captured, we would have gotten no information from him – and America would have been attacked again.

    http://corner.nationalreview.com/

    WOW

15. ACTivist
    February 5th, 2009 @ 5:26 pm

    Jacob,

    “Your knee jerk response has caused me such distress, I am considering sepuku.”

    That’s raw fish soup in Korea, right? I had that once when I was there. They even let me lick the blade!

16. ACTivist
    February 5th, 2009 @ 5:30 pm

    Cathymac,

    “I don’t think Carter ever had the “deer in the headlights”

    Were you even born when Cartiere was prez? You wouldn’t say that if you had just watched ONE of his fireside chats! He was clueless!

17. stay puft marshmallow man
    February 5th, 2009 @ 5:42 pm

    well, jacob, I’m sure you’d disagree with my disagreements, but, you know,

    -”freeing terrorists” is a bit of a stretch.

    -”Killing children” is a bit misleading.

    -I didn’t hear Obama denounce America in his interview w/ Al Arabia. I remember him saying something about how we aren’t perfect. Is that what you’re referring to?

    -The back taxes don’t look good, but in your little analysis there you presume the people are guilty. Not that you’re wrong, you’re just taking the path of totalitarians.

    -What’s the problem with $300 million on STD prevention? It would create jobs and lead to healthier communities, which in it’s own right would only help the economy. Find me something that WOULDN’t create jobs if you invested $300 million on it. Keynes said that spending money helps get an economy moving, and that it doesn’t really matter where you spend the money; if you put it all in bottles and buried it 1000 feet underground it would end up sparking a money-mining boom. It was that kind of thinking, in part, that got us out of the recession. Where I come from there are a lot of woods, and in some places in those woods, you’ll find row upon row of pine trees, all planted in a nice neat grid by CCC workers during the depression. The CCC had an important role in creating jobs during the depression. If this stimulus plan had money allocated for planting trees in the woods, Republicans would be freaking out about it right now. John McCain would be sending out mass emails to his old campaign listservs. But in spite of all their noise, the republicans only idea is more tax cuts. Enough with the tax cuts we’ve tax cut our way through the past eight years of recession and stagnant economic growth. Time for a change already.

    -”53% were enraptured” doesn’t give credit to swingvoters who swung away from the Old Man and the Sycophant. etc. etc.

    The inaccuracies in your post are in form of overblown assumptions and overstated “facts,” see. but hey, this is the blogosphere, so no harm done!

18. Wolverine
    February 5th, 2009 @ 5:44 pm

    If we ever do capture Bin Laden alive and if al-Qaeda is still out there and active, I would strongly recommend that you put away your passports and cancel any plans to travel abroad. The first thing that al-Qaeda will do is start picking off Americans abroad and holding them as ransom for their leader’s release. If we do not comply, I suspect that some heads will roll literally, so to speak, until we meet their demands. As you saw in Pakistan and Iraq, these people have no mercy whatsoever.

    Do we really want to put ourselves in that kind of a pickle just for some form of “closure”? I say that we should leave the sick old bugger to rot in his Afghan cave and focus on cleaning out the al-Qaeda operational commands wherever we find them. Perhaps during that battle, the old bugger will just up and pass away, saving us all a whole lot of trouble.

    Our reconnaissance and armed drones/aircraft are in that area watching for him. If they can’t get him, the only other option is a combined air-ground assault against his lair whenever it is accurately pinpointed.

    Which of you wants to sacrifice the lives of any our kids in uniform just to say we finally got Bin Laden? His lair is undoubtedly protected by some of the most hardened and suicidal of the al-Qaeda fighters. They would be operating on their home turf. That’s what our kids would be facing up above them. Down below and behind them would be the resurgent Taliban, which we and NATO have proved unable thus far to eliminate.

    In my book the bastard is not worth the life of a single American soldier. First beat the crap out of his troops wherever we can find them and then mop up the floor with him afterwards, if he is still alive. But, above all, don’t pull off some stupid stunt that could bring much harm to innocent and unprotected Americans all around the globe.

19. jacob
    February 5th, 2009 @ 7:16 pm

    SPaMM,
    “-”freeing terrorists” is a bit of a stretch.”
    Agreed (put that your stocking). But the funny part is yet to come. There is not a single country that wants these poor misunderstood souls. So where to put them? No. There is not a single STATE that wants them either. I am willing to bet that they stay in the Cuba facility a.k.a. Guantanimo. Obama executive order was a sop to all the crazies in your party. I was about as accurate as Obama in his executive order.

    -”Killing children” is a bit misleading.
    No. Its not. Unborn children are still children. Dispoable according to you. But they are still children. (put that in your stocking too)

    ‘-I didn’t hear Obama denounce America in his interview w/ Al Arabia. I remember him saying something about how we aren’t perfect. Is that what you’re referring to?’
    Its the venue coupled with the comment. It will be or already has been pronounced as such in the M.E. media. We are fighting a war in the Levant with true diyed in the wool lunatics. Obama gave them ammo in a fight that is as much about words as it is about bullets and IEDs.

    ‘-The back taxes don’t look good, but in your little analysis there you presume the people are guilty. Not that you’re wrong, you’re just taking the path of totalitarians.’
    That is crap. We are not talking about a court of law. This is a job interview for positions that are ALL ABOUT the public trust. Totalitarian? I missed where I asked for their improsonment w/o a trial. I recall what happened to a Republican with ALLEDGED nanny troubles during the last set of confirmation hearings. Couric did not ask Bush ‘Are they making it hard [on you]?’

    Face it bubb. Obama trumpeted his coming as the END of corruption. This was repeated ad nauseum by his sycophants in the press. So here we are and he does not have one but three appointees with tax troubles. Give it a rest dude … Obama stepped in it here.

    “Keynes said that spending money helps get an economy moving, and that it doesn’t really matter where you spend the money”
    Which is nonsense. The Keynesian model of the economy is linear and therefore false. There is feedback at MANY levels. Targeted spending will produce far better results than this mess concocted by Nancy and Obey. Hell most if it won’t get into the economy till 2010, or later. This akin to you going on a spending spree at Macy’s for a TV instead of spending money on refinancing your debt. Both make you feel better. The latter does so by freeing up your cash flow.

    ‘-”53% were enraptured” doesn’t give credit to swingvoters who swung away from the Old Man and the Sycophant. etc. etc.’
    You realize your are arguing about me calling voters ‘enraptured’. Are you arguing that the swing voters were not enraptured. Just disgusted with McCain. Agreed! (put that in your stocking)

20. jacob
    February 5th, 2009 @ 7:50 pm

    SPaMM,
    one more thing.
    “The inaccuracies in your post are in form of overblown assumptions and overstated “facts,” see. but hey, this is the blogosphere, so no harm done!”
    Shall I dwell on you being a full blown apologist for Obama? Nayh. This is the blogosphere, so no harm done!

21. Cathymac
    February 5th, 2009 @ 9:52 pm

    Act, I was in 4th grade in 1976 so I remember quite a bit of Jimma Carter. He never struck me as scared, but I remember thinking he was not prepared to be President during his years in office. Since leaving office he has been nothing but arrogant.

22. dans
    February 5th, 2009 @ 10:38 pm

    With all the comparisons to Carter, let us hope President Obama is never attacked by a rabbit..

23. dans
    February 5th, 2009 @ 11:18 pm

    WASHINGTON – The Pentagon’s senior judge overseeing terror trials at Guantanamo Bay dropped charges Thursday against an al-Qaida suspect in the 2000 USS Cole bombing, upholding President Barack Obama’s order to freeze military tribunals there. The charges against suspected al-Qaida bomber Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri marked the last active Guantanamo war crimes case.

24. Had Enough
    February 5th, 2009 @ 11:29 pm

    Dan, we don’t need these cases bungled, he is playing with fire. This article from Yahoo explains a lot. A judge denied this move days ago and stood up to the Usurper, Susan J. Crawford is responsible (read her connection)

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090206/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/obama_guantanamo

25. stay puft marshmallow man
    February 6th, 2009 @ 12:40 am

    Jacob,

    I thought we were all apologists here. No?

26. jacob
    February 6th, 2009 @ 10:36 am

    SPaMM,
    Interesting statement, I am conservative. I certainly an advocate for conservative viewpoints and ideals. Does that make me an conservative apologist SP?

    When I agreed with GW I defended him, does that make me an apologist. When GW did things I did not agree with, I excoriated him. In the end I rejected him. Am I still an apologist, or someone who blows with the wind?

    It appears Obama can do no wrong in your eyes. His long association with ACORN, Wright, Rezko, Ayers. His utter lack of executive experience and his ever so short resume. His support of leaving children who survived abortion to die by withholding medical treatment. His contemptible habit of voting present, instead of taking a stand. The gaps in his whereabouts. All of this is just no big deal to you. You sluff it all off. You don’t try to justify it. It is just no big thing.

    That is lazy. It is also 180 degrees from your usual defense of positions you agree with. You turn a zombie when it comes to this guy. The difference is very noticeable. Go read some of you old defenses of something like gay marriage. And then look at the lackadaisical toper exhibited in your Obama defense. no logic, no facts, just ‘oh you are over the top.’

    Your critical thinking ability is absent when it comes to him. Obama can do no wrong, is just sooo right. That is the hallmark of an apologist boy.

27. dans
    February 6th, 2009 @ 1:04 pm

    HE,

    Yes, I saw that.

    “release to other nations”

    The only nations that will likely accept them are those nations providing safe harbor to terrorists.

28. jack
    February 6th, 2009 @ 2:18 pm

    Nonsense. There are plenty of countries willing to take those terrorists. If the libs think those guys are treated badly at Gitmo, just wait.

29. jacob
    February 6th, 2009 @ 3:18 pm

    Jack,
    I disagree. Many countries have already said, ‘No Thanks!’ Can you name anyone who has said please give me these goons?

30. jack
    February 6th, 2009 @ 3:34 pm

    I do believe that Bush tried to hand over some to other countries for “further questioning.” The libs protested.

31. ACTivist
    February 6th, 2009 @ 3:47 pm

    The UK was going to take some and so was Germany. Syria, Yemen and Saudi Arabia WANT them. I guess when you fail your mission for Allah there are grime consequences. I’m all in favor to save from housing and feeding them as long as those countries that want them are willing to deal with them to their liking!

32. dans
    February 6th, 2009 @ 4:34 pm

    Murtha has said Pennsylvania will take them, but I guess the fine print is the $150 per head per day price tag.

    Curious, if they are released, how many will seek a pilots license ?

33. stay puft marshmallow man
    February 6th, 2009 @ 8:30 pm

    “It appears Obama can do no wrong in your eyes”

    because I’m not rushing to get in line to attack every nit-picking thing he does, or trying to figure out how to frame the few things he’s done so far in the worst light possible? Honestly. The guy’s barely been in office for 2 weeks and you’re already practically jumping up and down proclaiming a failed presidency.

    I think I’ve discussed the wright, ayers, and acorn stuff. You’re right, I don’t think the evidence amounts to much, and so I conclude that it’s “no big deal” as you say. What are the facts? That Obama knew Ayers? That acorn got people to go out and register voters but the people filled out the forms themselves so they could get the money, and somehow people tried to pin it on Obama? These issues were the typical campaign mudslinging, with not a lot of substance underneath.

    Anyway, how rigorously are you prepared to defend the “John McCain is senile” sort of stuff that was flung in his direction? It’s campaign nonsense and I don’t think it’s worth the time. Call it lazy if you want.

    also, in reference to the “Keynes thinking is too linear,” how does “lets keep cutting taxes and hope it trickles down” thinking not guilty of the same thing? Economic MODELS are by definition simplifications of what actually goes on. I think that was a cop out on your part.

34. Wolverine
    February 6th, 2009 @ 8:46 pm

    Aw, c’mon, Stay Puft! You have to admit that, after all that campaign rhetoric about transparency and doing away with the “old politics”, failure to vet thoroughly your own high-level appointees was pretty darn stupid stuff.

    I personally don’t blame Obama for that, except for the fact that he is depending, apparently, on some pretty lame staff people to support him. I have no doubt he will learn the ropes soon, but he could start by making a couple of those dummies walk the plank. There’s no excuse for that sloppiness. They embarrassed their own top guy just when he absolutely did not need it! How much confidence in his governance can he expect if he continues on with those people running his errands?

35. dans
    February 6th, 2009 @ 9:58 pm

    “nit-picking thing he does”

    High level office picks cheating on their taxes and a $700 billion special interest spending package are nits ?

    “I did not know it was taxable” is something I might believe coming from a ditch digger, not a former Senate leader.

36. Wolverine
    February 6th, 2009 @ 11:34 pm

    There are some things out there which are completely unbelievable. You are working as an independent contractor. You get paid for your services. Is there anybody out there on this blog foolish enough not to realize that you just might have to pay taxes on that income? You relied on the advice of some stupid tax consultant? Why not pick up the phone and ask the IRS? Or. better yet, write a letter and get it on paper. “Trust but verify.”

    So the IRS finally catches up with you and sends a bill to cover taxes owed on two years worth of that contractor income. You pay up but do not mention that you actually owe for the two years prior to that as well. You apparently hope the IRS will not go back that far and nail you again.

    I ask you: Is this stupidity or dishonesty or both? Whatever it is, that is your new Secretary of the Treasury, who is also the ultimate boss for the IRS. I am so damned impressed!

    Now we have Solis before the Senate committee. Turns out her husband had a long-time tax lien on his business. He pays up shortly before his wife is scheduled to start appointment hearings. Something mighty fishy in all that.

    We now hear from the usual politicos that this shouldn’t affect Solis’ appointment. After all, it was her husband’s business. She wasn’t involved in it. She wasn’t directly concerned with it. Izzat so? Then why did he suddenly pay up? Funny. I seem to remember the libs trying to make hay over the fact that McCain couldn’t recall how many houses his wife owned, what with their pre-nup agreement and separation of personal finances. The consistency here just absolutely floors me.

    Daschle is the worst of all. One time top Dem dog in the Senate. The House writes the tax code and the Senate has to pass on it. Serve in the House or Senate and you’ve now got all these personal finance things you have to reveal up front to show you’re an honest politico. Mess up and you go bye-bye a la Ted Stevens (especially if you’re a Republican — Charlie Rangel has an exemption apparently). This guy Daschle didn’t realize that he might owe taxes on his free limo service provided courtesy of George Hindery Jr? Tell me another funny story.

    This is not to mention that other gal who ran off so quickly nobody even knows what happened, beyond an ostensibly small tax problem with the household help. That really smells odd.

    There is to my mind at least one indisputable thing here. Obama has got some people working for him in the White House who are downright stupid, possibly even deceitful. Two weeks in office and already a need to clean up part of the house…unless the Prez wants to continue getting ambushed by friendly fire.

37. Wolverine
    February 6th, 2009 @ 11:46 pm

    Correction to my last: That’s Leo Hindery Jr.

38. dans
    February 7th, 2009 @ 12:01 am

    “Obama has got some people working for him in the White House who are downright stupid,”

    It’s gonna be a long four years..

39. Had Enough
    February 7th, 2009 @ 12:03 am

    Murtha is a jackass (being nice) I wonder if he has told the citizens of Pennsylvania yet?

    Once terrorists touch US soil, the whole situation shifts to things such as rights, etc. that should only be bestowed upon citizens, not murderers that kill our citizens.

    They should not be brought here. Castro has been crying something to the effect that he wants us out so he can regain his property. Even if they close it down, it would be a major catastrophe to abandon it and let Castro take control of it.

40. Had Enough
    February 7th, 2009 @ 12:06 am

    Maybe not Dan, evidence is piling up against the Usurper. What you see is not what you got.

41. The Bulletproof Monk
    February 7th, 2009 @ 12:12 am

    “because I’m not rushing to get in line to attack every nit-picking thing he does, or trying to figure out how to frame the few things he’s done so far in the worst light possible? Honestly. The guy’s barely been in office for 2 weeks and you’re already practically jumping up and down proclaiming a failed presidency.”

    We told you he was green and untested. You scoffed.

42. dans
    February 7th, 2009 @ 12:25 am

    HE,

    What I see IS what I got.. Many voted with their eyes wide open, many did not..

    Please count me among the former..

43. Had Enough
    February 7th, 2009 @ 12:43 am

    It has nothing to do with him in office for 2 weeks, he was never supposed to be in that office in the first place.

    He is not (was not) eligible to run for president to begin with, he did not meet the criteria for the office under the constitution.

    He is not a natural born citizen, his father was a British subject, not a citizen, two citizen parents make you natural born otherwise you are a citizen by statute. He may be a dual citizen which disqualifies him. No matter how you twist it he did not qualify to run.

    If he was born in Kenya as his family said, it still disqualifies him.

    He was adopted by an Indonesian, he was no longer a dual citizen, etc. but a citizen of Indonesia. Disqualifies him.

    He was never vetted by any government agency, he never joined any committee that required him to have a top secret intelligence clearance that would have required him to have a thorough background check.

    He still refuses to turn over birth records, passports, school records, etc. Hawaii allows the birth of a child born in a foreign country to register the birth for a Hawaiian birth certificate. The birth certificate can not be used for legal matters in Hawaii including homestead. His sister was born in Indonesia and has the same type of Hawaiian birth certificate.

    Records indicate that his mother was a Indonesian citizen when she died.

    It is a very messy situation, Mel Martinez said that the people vetted him when they voted for him. Bill Richardson refers to him as a immigrant…….

44. Had Enough
    February 7th, 2009 @ 1:19 am

    Actually, there were three running for president that did not qualify, the Usurper, McCain (congress made changes to a bill to add him which are questionable) and Roger Colero (?), he is a Nicaraguan national with a green card.

    In early 2008, Usurper, Hillary and McCain attempted to change the citizenship amendment, using reasons for children of the military, it was shelved.

45. Rachelfriend
    February 7th, 2009 @ 1:21 am

    Geithner is the clearest example of the inbred corruption in Washington and the lack of integrity in the new White House. Geithner apparently took tax deductions for his kids’ sleep-away camp. His tax advisor told him he couldn’t, and he did it anyway. Even a moron knows you can’t take that type of deduction. The White House knew he’d taken it and pushed him through anyway, before the American people got the whole story about him. He’s now in charge of the IRS. There’s no way I can have confidence in an administration that so blatently assaults the intelligence of the American people.

    Geithner is a tax cheat and until he steps down the Obama Administration will get a big fat laugh whenever they mention “end of corruption” or “change” with a straight face. I don’t blame the people working for the President in the White House. They’re doing exactly what they were hired to do and they’re apparently doing it the way the Democrats want them to. I blame President Obama. Obama apologists won’t acknowledge the huge credibility gap that has opened in the last two weeks. That’s OK. If President Obama doesn’t change his tune soon, he will loose the independents and moderates who voted for him, and the 2010 elections will be awfully interesting.

46. Marjorie
    February 7th, 2009 @ 10:08 am

    So Obama has stated “I AM NOT A MUSLIM” His words do not match his actions, Is he really looking out for America’s Welfare?

    Obama Submits to Islam: UPDATED w/video
    by SANE Staff, Wed, February 04, 2009, 05:10 PM

    Frank J. Gaffney, Jr.
    S.U.B.M.I.S.S.I.O.N.

    How appropriate that Barack Obama featured Aretha Franklin in his inaugural festivities since her signature song is “Respect.” Literally from the moment she finished belting out “My Country Tis of Thee” on January 20, the new President has been conveying his “respect” the Muslim world. Unfortunately, the way he practices it seems to be spelled S.U.B.M.I.S.S.I.O.N.

    Several observers have noted in recent days that Mr. Obama’s outreach to the Muslim world is not only defensive and apologetic. It explicitly embraces a narrative that is factually erroneous and deprecating to his own country.

    For example, in his inaugural address, the President spoke of seeking “a new way forward [with the Muslim world], based on mutual interest and mutual respect.” He amplified this idea during his first post-inaugural interview which was granted to a Saudi-owned network, al-Arabiya: He is determined to “restore” the “same respect and partnership America had with the Muslim world as recently as 20 or 30 years ago.”

    The problem with this formulation is that it misrepresents the more distant as well as the recent past, even as it panders to those (abroad and at home) who would blame the United States for the ills of the Muslim world. As Charles Krauthammer put it in his syndicated column last week, over the past 20 years, “America did not just respect Muslims, it bled for them….It is both both false and injurious to this country to draw a historical line dividing America under Obama from a benighted past when Islam was supposedly disrespected and demonized.”

    The President also told al-Arabiya that: “My job is to communicate the fact that the United States has a stake in the well-being of the Muslim world, that the language we use has to be a language of respect. I have Muslim members of my family. I have lived in Muslim countries.” Lest there be any doubt about the priority he attaches to this messaging, Mr. Obama repeated the point. “My job to the Muslim world is to communicate that the Americans are not your enemy. We sometimes make mistakes. We have not been perfect.”

    For good measure, the new President described America as a country of “Muslims, Christians, Jews” and others– a presumably intentional upgrading of adherents to the faith of his father, Islam, from the second place position he accorded them in his State of the Union address several days before. (The rankings of both orderings obviously reflect something other than demographics; there are far fewer Muslims than Christians in the United States and, according to independent estimates, only half as many– or less– than Jews.)

    Mr. Obama has also seriously mischaracterized our enemy as “a far-reaching network of violence and hatred,” averring “We cannot paint with a broad brush a faith as a consequence of the violence done in that faith’s name.” Such statements deliberately ignore the animating and unifying role in jihad of authoritative Islam’s violent and hateful theo-political-legal program: Shariah.

    What is really worrying is that Mr. Obama’s actions and rhetoric are almost certainly being perceived by his target audience as evidence not of respect but of subservience– precisely what Islam (literally, “submission” in Arabic) requires of all of us, Muslims and non-Muslims, alike. Consider the following:

    * Mr. Obama has made no secret of his desire to cultivate improved relations with the mullahs of Iran, who have repressed their people and threatened ours for thirty years. It appears that he started to do so months before his election, as a senior campaign advisor, former Clinton Secretary of Defense William Perry, met repeatedly with a representative of Iran’s genocide-supporting president, Mahmoud Ahamadinejad. In recent days, Obama special envoy for Afghan and Pakistan, Richard Holbrooke, hired as a senior advisor Professor Vali Reza Nasr – an Iranian expatriate with an appalling record of shilling for the Islamic Revolutionary Iranian regime.

    * According to GeostrategyDirect.com, a newsletter published by ace national security reporter Bill Gertz, “Diplomatic sources said Barack Obama has engaged several Arab intermediaries to relay messages to and from al Qaeda in the months before his elections as the 44th U.S. president. The sources said al Qaeda has offered what they termed a truce in exchange for a U.S. military withdrawal from Afghanistan. ‘For the last few months, Obama has been receiving and sending feelers to those close to al Qaeda on whether the group would end its terrorist campaign against the United States,’ a diplomatic source said. ‘Obama sees this as helpful to his plans to essentially withdraw from Afghanistan and Iraq during his first term in office.’”

    If surrender in Afghanistan, Iraq and Iran were not enough, upcoming opportunities for Mr. Obama to exhibit American submission to Islam include: ordering U.S. participation in the UN’s “Durban II” conference– thereby legitimating its Iranian-dictated, rabidly anti-Israel, anti-American, Holocaust-denying and “Islamophobia”-banning agenda; adopting the program for undermining Israel promoted by longtime Friends-of-Barack Rashid Khalidi and Samantha Power (the latter just appointed a senior National Security Council official); and reversing the FBI’s long-overdue decision to end its association with the Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR), a prominent front organization of the Muslim Brotherhood (whose stated mission is “to destroy America from within.”)

    Whatever Barack Obama’s intentions, the kind of “respect” he is exhibiting towards Shariah-adherent Muslims will surely be seen by them as submission. And that spells only one thing: D.I.S.A.S.T.E.R.

47. dans
    February 7th, 2009 @ 11:43 am

    “He is not a natural born citizen”

    Hate to say it, but it is time someone prove this allegation. Someone will surely reply “all he has to do is show his birth certificate”, but here in the U.S. the burden of proof falls upon the accuser does it not ?

48. Marjorie
    February 7th, 2009 @ 12:15 pm

    So true, yet McCain had no issue with bringing his bc forward.

    The more Obama fights the bigger the argument becomes. This will haunt him for the next four years and the way he’s going I predict he’ll crack in some speech and blow his cover when the stress becomes to great.

49. dans
    February 7th, 2009 @ 12:18 pm

    “So true, yet McCain had no issue with bringing his bc forward.”

    we saw how well that worked..

50. Wolverine
    February 7th, 2009 @ 3:31 pm

    Rachelfriend — I personally prefer to hold off final judgement on how much blame to apportion to the President on the issue of the very poor vetting of appointees. Yes, the President put his staff people in place and should bear a share of the blame. However, even though I am far from being an Obama fan, it will take some real evidence to convince me that he would knowingly and willfully put himself into a free-fire zone over the issue of appointments when there are much bigger fish which need frying. At the point where I am shown such evidence, my opinion will change.

    No one can deny that Obama came into this thing “green” to the max and running on the heady fumes of a successful election campaign. He reminds me of a young 2nd Lieutenant with college degrees just out of OCS and sent into a combat situation. That 2nd Louie had better pray he winds up with a smart and battle-tested top sergeant to carry him over the hump and keep him alive until the 2nd Louie fully understands what he’s doing out there. Not for nothing that 2nd Lieutenants have a high casualty rate on the battlefield.

    As any leader will tell you, you are only as good as the staff under you. In my view, the President ought to start taking a hard look at who he has in that White House, especially since he seems to want to go extremely fast on everything on his plate. To put it rather bluntly in this instance, his “sergeants” forgot to tell him to take the gold bars off his collar before going into combat. They should know full well from experience what the snipers are looking for.

    In my view, Obama’s staff let him down very badly. Whether that was from stupidity and ignorance or from political arrogance and disdain for the public I do not really know at this point. Either way, it was a very bad staff show. The last thing you want is for the big boss to have to go before the public and accept the blame for something you messed up.

51. dans
    February 7th, 2009 @ 3:44 pm

    Wolv,

    It is too early to tell if Obama will be a “the buck stops here”, Democrat, or a “depends on what the meaning of the word ‘is’ is” Democrat..

    That said, one of Reagan’s principle achievements was as an executive manager, appointing good people to key positions..

    Seems we are back to the experience issue again, will this circle remain unbroken ?

52. Wolverine
    February 7th, 2009 @ 4:05 pm

    President Obama’s take on a new approach to the Muslim world is most interesting. Having a stake in the well-being of the Muslim world and treating Muslims with respect are nice thoughts.

    Now, how could we carry out such a policy? Hmmmm….maybe we could send our troops into a Muslim country where the people are under the jackboot of an extremely bloody and merciless dictator with a penchant for making war against his neighbors and some of his own people. Nasty fellow who doesn’t hesitate to use chemical weapons against military and civilians. We could throw that bastard out and then help the people to hold free elections for the first time in their long history.

    Interesting theory and a tough assignment We could serve our own national interests and the interests of those enslaved people at the same time…… Nah, won’t work. We already tried that and just got a big ration of political crap out of it.

    Looks like the only option is to go back to kissing behinds and begging to be loved so no one will decide to come here to take flying lessons. We can also throw the Israelis under the proverbial bus while we are at it. Sharia lessons anyone? I’m sure the dearly beloved Archbishop of Canterbury would be delighted to come over and start up classes…sort of show us how to bend over and grab our knees, so to speak.

53. Rachelfriend
    February 7th, 2009 @ 7:12 pm

    Wolverine: I appreciate your position. I just disagree (and please know that I actually was not referring to you when I wrote about “Obama apologists”, since I do believe you’re trying to be balanced in discussing President Obama and his positions). I just have a different view of his level of responsibility for the “vetting” process, since as I understand it he knew about Mr. Geithner’s tax situation weeks in advance of the vote on his nomination. It’s not that President Obama read Geither’s tax returns and stood behind him anyway, it’s that President Obama knew that a man who had not paid his taxes paid them up right before his nomination to run the IRS and millions of Americans had just been lectured by the President and Vice President for not being patriotic because they don’t want their taxes raised. It’s a situation that’s hypocritical and fully within President Obama’s pay grade and level of expertise to avoid, with or without competent staff to protect him.

54. Had Enough
    February 7th, 2009 @ 10:49 pm

    What makes anyone think that BHO has Muslim connections?

    Obama’s English professor at Columbia is Edward Said, a pro-Palestinian, anti-Israel activist.

    Both at Occidental College in California and at Columbia College in New York, Obama’s roommates are foreign Muslims

    Rashid Khalidi, a former PLO operative and backer who justified Palestinian terrorism as contributing to “political enlightenment,” hosts a fund raiser for Obama.

    While Obama serves on the board of the Woods Fund, it approves (in 2001) a $40,000 grant to the “Arab American Action Network” (AAAN); a second grant, for $35,000, is approved in 2002. President of the AAAN is Mona Khalidi, wife of Rashid Khalidi, a professor Obama met while at Columbia University. Khalidi, a former spokesman for Yassir Arafat, anti-Semite, strong critic of Israel, and supporter of Palestinian terrorism and the PLO, later holds fundraisers for candidate Obama. AAAN calls the founding of Israel a “catastrophe,” supports liberal immigration reform in the United States, and encourages giving drivers licenses to illegal aliens.

    Serving on the board of the AAAN is Ali Abunimah, a Palestinian-American, anti-Semite, co-founder of “Electronic Intifada,” and long-time friend of Obama. Abunimah refers to Jews as malicious liars, and even suggests they lied about the Holocaust, writing, “if Zionists could lie about their present and ongoing torment of my (Palestinian) people, usurpation of my homeland and arrogation of my rights, and they do it rather obscenely, couldn’t they likewise lie, equally obscenely, about the holocaust, an event that took place over half a century ago?”

    In 2003, Obama attends a dinner held in honor of Rashid Khalidi, a former PLO operative, harsh critic of Israel, and advocate of Palestinian rights. Obama, who has consistently denied a close relationship with Khalidi (the Obamas have dined more than once at the home of Khalidi and his wife, Mona, and used them as occasional baby-sitters), praises Khalidi during the decidedly anti-Semitic event. William Ayers attends the party, and both Ayers and Obama sign Khalidi’s “guest book.” The event is a going away party for Khalidi, who is leaving Chicago and moving to New York. The Los Angeles Time has a videotape of the event, but refuses to release it.” The dinner is sponsored by the Arab American Action Network, to which Obama had funneled cash while serving on the board of the Woods Fund. One speaker remarks that if Palestinians cannot secure a return of their land, Israel “will never see a day of peace.”

    It has also been alleged that, in his speech at the Khalidi dinner, Obama states that “Israel has no God-given right to occupy Palestine,” and there has been “genocide against the Palestinian people by (the) Israelis.”

    In 2004, Iraqi billionaire Nadhmi Auchi (who lives in London) flies to Chicago in a private jet and meets at the Four Seasons Hotel with Tony Rezko, Illinois Governor Rod Blagojevich, and Obama. At this point, both Blagojevich and Obama are aware that Rezko is already under investigation for illegal activities involving kickbacks for political favors.

    Obama visits Kenya in 2006, and gives support to Raila Odinga, a Muslim socialist candidate for President who has ties to both al Qaeda and Libya’s Muammar Qaddafi and was educated in communist East Germany, and who hopes to get Sharia Muslim law established. Odinga is a cousin of Obama; Odinga’s mother is the sister of Obama’s father.

    In support of Odinga, Obama raises approximately $950,000. The cash for Odinga comes from private meetings in 2006 arranged for Odinga by Mark Lippert, a foreign policy advisor on Obama’s staff. Odinga visits Obama during three separate trips to Washington in 2004, 2005, and 2006. Odinga promises his supporters in Kenya that he will “rewrite the Constitution of Kenya to recognize Shariah as the only true law sanctioned by the Holy Quran for Muslim declared religion.”

    In 2007, Obama tells the Des Moines Register that “…nobody’s suffering more than the Palestinian people.”

    On April 30, 2007, in an interview with the New York Times, Obama’s half-sister, Maya Soetoro-Ng, says, “My whole family was Muslim, and most of the people I knew were Muslim.”

    Obama tells friend Ali Abunimah, a Palestinian rights activist in Chicago, that he was sorry he wasn’t talking more about the Palestinian cause, but his primary campaign had “constrained” what he could say. Abunimah tells radio talk show “Democracy Now!” he knew Obama for many years and “when he used to attend events in the Palestinian community in Chicago all the time.” Abunimah responds to Obama’s sudden about-face and soft support of Israel during the campaign by remarking, “He is merely doing what he thinks is necessary to get elected and he will continue doing it as long as it keeps him in power.”

    Obama ousts his campaign’s Muslim outreach director, Chicago lawyer Mazen Asbahi, when questions about his ties to a radical Muslim imam and the Muslim Brotherhood surface, along with links to the Islamic Society of North America (an unindicted co-conspirator in the Holy Land Foundation Hamas-terrorist-funding case). Asbahi was a board member of the Allied Asset Advisor Fund (associated with the North American Islamic Trust), with Jamal Said (imam of a radical Chicago area mosque who raised money for Hamas and families of its suicide bombers). Despite losing his official position with the campaign, Asbahi continues to work for Obama, participating in conference calls.

    In October of 2008, Obama’s newly appointed “Muslim Outreach Advisor,” Minha Husaini, is criticized for having met with extremist Islamic groups on September 15; Husaini’s predecessor had resigned because of connections to a radical Muslim cleric. Among those meeting with Husaini was Mazen Asbahi (who Husaini had just replaced as outreach director) and Mahdi Bray, who has publicly supported Hamas and Hezbollah, and Johari Abdul Malik, a Falls Church, Virginia cleric, who told followers in November of 2004, “You will see Islam move from being the second largest religion in America – to being the first religion in America.”

    There is more, but I don’t want to tire you.

55. Had Enough
    February 7th, 2009 @ 10:54 pm

    Sorry, just one more for now.

    Attorney Percy Sutton tells reporters in 2008, “I was introduced to (Obama) by a friend who was raising money for him. The friend’s name is Dr. Khalid al-Mansour.” Gifts from al-Mansour may have funded Obama’s years at Harvard. In April of 2008, however, Obama’s wife states that Obama had “just paid off his loan debt” for his Harvard Law School education. That statement, however, is not consistent with a review of Obama’s financial disclosures, which go back to 2000 and which did not list any outstanding college loans. (As a candidate for the U.S. Senate, Obama was required, in 2004, to file a financial disclosure form detailing his assets, income, consulting contracts, and liabilities. Obama listed zero for liabilities in 2004 and in all subsequent U.S. Senate financial disclosure forms.

56. Lovisa
    February 7th, 2009 @ 11:04 pm

    HE at 10:49 pm

    So what are you going to do about it?

    Impeachment might bring on Biden or Pelosi.

57. Jack
    February 7th, 2009 @ 11:07 pm

    0bama IS a liability, and we’re going to be paying a LONG time.

58. Rachelfriend
    February 7th, 2009 @ 11:15 pm

    Ahhh, Lovisa finally acknowledged there’s a problem (President Obama’s associations and friendships) and there’s a problem (Biden & Pelosi). Had Enough, I think you’ve finally worn her down.

59. Wolverine
    February 8th, 2009 @ 3:24 am

    Rachelfriend — The reason why I am trying to find some middle ground in all of this is because Obama is the one who has it all in his lap now for at least the next four years. The sloppy vetting was distressing to some extent but more so is the prospect that mistakes could be made in other areas which could really hurt us all. You know what I write about most on this blog from my personal background, so you know where I am going on this.

    Like any major leader, Obama needs to get quickly past dependence on the gung-ho, ideological shoe lickers in his entourage and find those advisors who do not fear to say: “Mr. President, I’m afraid you may be making a big mistake here.”

    Every leader needs what the heroes of ancient Rome had: a guy with them in the chariot during their victory parades whose job it was to keep reminding the big guys that they were mortals, not gods. If as President you do not have that type of guy around you, you are headed for some major blunders aided and abetted by the yes-men. Given what happened with the vetting, it would appear to me that Rahm Emmanuel, for one, failed to assume that absolutely critical role.

    I am far from being an Obama apologist. But he is now the go-to guy to protect all of us from terrorist harm. I have to put some of the politics aside and hope that he plays this role well, for all our sakes. I’ve got no choice in that matter.

60. Had Enough
    February 8th, 2009 @ 3:49 am

    Lovisa,

    You impeach presidents, on this case we presently do not have a president, but a usurper posing as the president.

    There are several options, I believe it was Dr.Viera that outlined them, I don’t have it handy tonight.

    Dozens of lawsuits have been or are being filed to present evidence that BHO should not have been allowed on the ballot to begin with along with McCain and Calero (a Nicaraguan National) who were also not eligible to be on the ballots.

    This is not new, Lawyers, groups and others have requested documents from him for over a year with no results. BHO has spent hundreds of thousands of dollars to fight these lawsuits, they claim that no one has standing to pursue the issues.

    The most likely scenario is that he will be arrested and removed from the white house, someone will be appointed to temporarily sit in the oval office until a new election is held.

    Because he was not eligible to run, the ticket would be void and Biden would no longer be vice president and he would be ineligible to take BHO’s place.

    If Oprah had been up on her constitution, she would have known that he was ineligible when she talked of BHO’s father from Kenya.

    There are two other reasons to question his credibility in addition to that, he may have been born in Kenya as his family stated and he was adopted by an Indonesian where dual citizenship is not allowed which is the reason his name was changed to Barry Soretoro.

61. Had Enough
    February 8th, 2009 @ 3:58 am

    Obama Puts 2010 Census Under Rahm Emanuel’s Control, The Obama Administration moved the census out of the Department of Commerce and into the White House: Boehner, “Census should remain independent.”

    On his first official day in the White House, President Barack Obama was on the horn to President Mahmoud Abbas. — “The spokesman for President Abbas revealed that Mr. Obama had told the Palestinian leader that their conversation was his first with a foreign statesman since taking office.”

    By executive order, President Barack Obama has ordered the expenditure of $20.3 million in migration assistance to the Palestinian refugees and conflict victims in Gaza. — The “presidential determination” which allows hundreds of thousands of Palestinians with ties to Hamas to resettle in the United States was signed on January 27, 2009.

    Hisham Melhem’s interview with President Obama on Al Arabiya, BHO”S First interview.

    Obama Signs SCHIP. February 04, 2009 which was defeated last year because it included 4 million children of illegal aliens. Legal immigrants were not eligible for services until after 5 years until this bill. More perks and freebies for fraud and immigration paid for by the taxpayer.

    What else did he sign or order that we don’t know about?

    All bills, executive orders, etc. signed by an Usurper would be null and void. The problem is that he currently has access to confidential, top secret information and is making decisions that will affect this country long after we are gone.

62. Marjorie
    February 8th, 2009 @ 8:46 am

    Lovisa,

    No defense for Obama from you. Why not?

63. Lovisa
    February 8th, 2009 @ 9:25 am

    You know, Marjorie, Obama doesn’t need defense. I’m just sick and tired of Enuff’s tirades.

    Rachelfriend

    I haven’t aknowledged ANYthing. I only asked “What are you going to do about it?”

    Obama is President of the United States of America and some of you are trying to cut him down, smear him, and keep bringing up that tired old thing about him not being an American citizen.

    He is MY AND YOUR PRESIDENT!!

    DEAL WITH IT!

    You certainly are not helping the country with your jerimiads. Don’t you want your President to be as successful as he possibly can? Or do you want an impeachment hearing NOW? That would be absolutely wonderful, wouldn’t it? What would the consequenses be? Our standing in the world would go down even further than it did during BushII’s era.

    Your squawking, griping and snide remarks are pitiful! Go to church and pray for our President and our country! And take a long walk!

64. Lovisa
    February 8th, 2009 @ 9:28 am

    Had Enoug at 3:49 am

    Sleep deprivation does strange things to one’s brain.

65. Marjorie
    February 8th, 2009 @ 11:53 am

    Lovisa,

    When Obama produces his birth certificate proving he is indeed an American citizen and only then will he be MY president otherwise he is just Mr. Obama- where is your defense of Obama Lovisa, this is what I asked of you?

    btw: your biased attitude towards Obama will be your hard fall when you realize that he’s a fraud.

    about prayer, Yes Lovisa Pray that Obama does not drive our nation towards the insidious rule of Islam, his actions towards Islam have predominated anything else before he took the oath of office and since. ( CURRENT REPORTS of meetings with middle eastern officals and leaders months before he won the election and on his first day in office calls these people: where does he have America’s best interest when he considers an “I sorry letter” to Iran} Get a brain Lovisa.

66. Had Enough
    February 8th, 2009 @ 12:38 pm

    Another Executive Order, Obama signed legislation that discriminates against 84 percent of U.S. construction workers who choose not to join a labor union. The companies they work for will not be allowed to bid on government jobs.

    Michael Steel said, “President Obama’s executive order will drive up the cost of government at a time when we should be doing everything possible to save taxpayer dollars. Federal contracts should go to the businesses that can offer taxpayers the best value – not just the unions who supported the Democrats’ campaigns last year. Quietly signing executive orders to payback campaign backers undermines Obama promise to change Washington. It is a disappointment for Americans hoping for more transparency and less politics as usual in Washington.”

67. Rachelfriend
    February 8th, 2009 @ 2:05 pm

    Lovisa, sorry it took me so long to respond. I had to look up the word “jerimiads”. Good description. I love it.

    Concerning prayer for the President and going to church, if anyone’s not doing that then I hope that they seriously think about it. However, I’m not presumptuous enough to assume that anyone writing in this forum is failing to do that, no matter which side of the fence they are on.

    Concerning “wanting the President to fail” and “smearing him”, I think you’re being intellectually dishonest. You know that many of the statements made in the last few months are based in fact, and they are being made out of a sincere desire to see that this country follows a path that will lead to peace and prosperity. As someone who knows the proper use of the word “jerimiad”, you know that individuals have a right, and a responsibility, to speak openly and honestly about the way their government functions, including the actions of the President.

    No, I don’t want President Obama impeached. Biden and Pelosi are too close to the Presidency and I’d rather have President Obama than have the two of them put together. However, President Obama has some serious problems to deal with and if he doesn’t get a quick dose of reality from the American people (including those in Washington) he will lead this country down a seriously deluded path. Democrat supporters of President Obama are too invested in Barak Obama the man to give President Obama the dose of reality he needs. Unfortunately, they want to shut up those who are not invested in him so that he can carry out their socialistic goals. Americans who do not want to go down that path have every right to speak up and I applaud them for doing so.

68. Lovisa
    February 8th, 2009 @ 4:04 pm

    Of course, we have the right and responsibility to voice our concerns, but when those concerns drag the office of the President down into the mud, I don’t feel that that does any good in any way.

    Could you possibly come up with some constructive criticism? In other words:

    What would YOU suggest be done to improve the situation? Do you sincerely believe that impeaching President Obama would be good for the country? Would you folks feel great if that happened?

    Again – my favorite expression – the domino effect. If we do this, then someting, maybe unexpected, happens, and after that, something else happens and on and on.

    GET REAL!

69. Wolverine
    February 8th, 2009 @ 4:33 pm

    Put the census under the direct control of the White House Chief of Staff? This guy Obama is grasping at all the levers so fast it makes your head swim. One thing after another. After awhile, it all begins to add up. Is this “change”? It’s beginning to smell to me more and more like a velvet-gloved coup d’etat out of which we will soon be ruled by Executive Order.

    You just watch. Rahm Emmanuel and his buddies will dream up all sorts of computer models to jigger the numbers of certain favored constituencies. The Constitution is pretty clear about counting each and every one of us, which is why census takers are forever on the streets checking out addresses from which no mailed-in census form was received. No estimates allowed, please, whether you like the results or not. You fail to answer the census form? Shame on you. What are you hiding?

    I am pretty open to all sides of any question, but I will tell you that I do not like executive power grabs one damned bit. If perchance Obama should get the opportunity to transform the Supreme Court into something more to his liking, the old Constitution will became exactly what the liberals claim it to be: a piece of paper with limited relevance to the contemporary age.

    At that point, we will have to revolt a la the recommendations of Tom Jefferson or slink away into political nothingness. Right now, we need to financially support a phalanx of lawyers who specialize in constitutional issues and know how to make a very visible public storm over them. We also need to work hard on the 2010 mid-term elections. I want this guy Obama to do the right thing for the country on a number of critical issues, but I am not inclined to sit around like some Alexander Kerensky waiting for real political power hammer to fall on us because we failed to keep watch.

70. Marjorie
    February 8th, 2009 @ 4:47 pm

    Lovisa,

    GET REAL YOU SAY< well have at it. To improve the sitution we need Obama out of offic and all the corrupt individuals he appointed, this includes others that are already in office, Pelosi, Reid,and Franks and others.

    The nation needs someone like Sarah Palin who puts americans first, That is just for starters.

    Got another Question Lovisa, Do You feel Obama has stood by his word to protect and defend America or has he shown favortism to the Muslims and Islamic Radicals by intention of closing gitmo an

71. Marjorie
    February 8th, 2009 @ 4:52 pm

    Lovisa,

    GET REAL YOU SAY< well have at it. To improve the sitution we need Obama out of offic and all the corrupt individuals he appointed, this includes others that are already in office, Pelosi, Reid,and Franks and others.

    The nation needs someone like Sarah Palin who puts americans first, That is just for starters.

    Got another Question Lovisa, Do You feel Obama has stood by his word to protect and defend America or has he shown favortism to the Muslims and Islamic Radicals by intention of closing gitmo and releasing Al Queda members? Do these actions represent a President who defends his country?

72. Lovisa
    February 8th, 2009 @ 5:28 pm

    Cool it, Marjorie!

    How do you get Obama out of office?

    If that should happen, who would take his place?

    Has Obama in his 2-3 weeks in office NOT protected and defended America? As far as I know he has not pulled out our troops in Iraq and he’s planning to increase US military force in Afghanistan, which has turned into the REAL battleground.

    Maybe you remember old W saying that he was going into every cave and hollow and smoke out that evil guy who was behind the 9-11 attack.

    Diplomacy, sorely missing in the former administration, is a way, civilized way, to deal with other nations. That’s what got the hostages in Iran released an hour before or after, I don’t remember, after Reagan was inaugurated.

    WHAT DO YOU WANT?

73. Lovisa
    February 8th, 2009 @ 5:31 pm

    Oh yah,

    Sarah Palin!!!!!

    Hope you read the Anchorage Daily News like I do. She’d be one heck of a hit talking with or attacking the Arabs, wouln’d she`?

    Sarah Palin !!!!!!!

74. Rachelfriend
    February 8th, 2009 @ 7:29 pm

    Lovisa, as I said, you’re being intellectually dishonest. If a concern is valid, it’s not dragging the office of the President down to discuss it.

    I won’t address the “impeachment” issue, since I stated clearly I did not want him impeached.

    Here’s what I would do:

    1. Force Geithner to step down
    2. Drop the fake “Stimulus Plan” and work with the House and the Senate to develop a real stimulus plan
    3. Fire all of the lobbyists he claimed he wouldn’t hire that he has hired
    4. Rescind the plan to close Gitmo until he determines where the prisoners will be sent, then come up with a new plan based on facts, not rhetoric
    5. Call for Frank, Dodd, and Rangel to step down
    6. Scrap the plan to nationalize health care
    7. Insist that the 12 million+ illegal immigrants in this country will not be allowed to jump to the front of the line
    8. Stop talking down about this economy, state clearly that the “taxes are patriotic” position he and Biden took during the campaign was just plane wrong, and let the American people (and businesses) know that taxes will not be raised to “redistribute the wealth”
    9. Stop talking down about the U.S. to the rest of the world to try to make other nations “like” us
    10. Embrace true energy independence, and insist that we take advantage of the oil reserves we have here in this country while we work diligently to find alternative sources of energy
    11. Rescind the 10% budget cut he just asked the military to take, since at the same time he apparently wants us to surge in Afghanistan and we’re not done in Iraq
    12. Stop supporting the efforts of Limousine Liberals in this country who continue to take advantage of the desires, hopelessness, pent up expectations, and (sadly) greed (for some) of the masses
    13. Step down from the decision to move the Census Bureau under the control of the White House and insist that by the next election cycle illegal immigrants and foreigners have no ability to vote in our elections or to donate money to our campaigns
    14. Speak out against “card check” and “fairness doctrine” legislation, since they are inherently un-American
    15. Put away childish things and ask his aunt to leave the country and apply to legally enter the country, since it’s an utter embarrassment to have a President of the United States with an illegal resident aunt

    That’s just what I’d do in the first two weeks if I were President Obama (in and around actually trying to keep this country safe by eavesdropping on terrorists and backing our intelligence and military leaders). Instead, he’s played politics with the Inauguration (the veiled insults against President Bush), ignored the stench of hypocrisy associated with his cabinet picks, and given long eloquent speeches (jeramaids?) describing the woeful results on this country’s economy if his “Stimulus” plan is not passed.

    Each of these items have been stated clearly by many people in this forum before. These aren’t unfounded attacks, or “talking down” the office of the President. These are legitimate concerns that deserve legitimate acknowledgment, not dismissal as “squawking”, although I totally understand why that’s the position you’ve taken.

75. Had Enough
    February 8th, 2009 @ 7:45 pm

    An Usurper can NOT be impeached because he was never legally president! A fraudulent election is void, the vice president and all cabinet members and any other appointments are void, a new election would most likely follow. There are a few other scenarios and they do not include Biden, Pelosi, et al.

    I will continue to express my dissatisfaction of the fact that the Usurper was not vetted and validated as eligible to run for POTUS, so save your breath because I have only just started.

    The only thing that drags the office of the President down into the mud is an Usurper who’s background and intentions are unknown and his refusal to prove otherwise by sealing every document that pertains to his credentials and character, if any actually exist. There is more coverage on this issue overseas than here and they are having a field day with it.

    It is incomprehensible, irresponsible, unpatriotic, treasonable, lawless, repulsive and contemptible that you would prefer a usurper sitting in the oval office than agonize about, “the domino effect. If we do this, then something, maybe unexpected, happens, and after that, something else happens and on and on.”

    The implications of an Usurper in a position receiving high intelligence top secret documents, the current ability to change laws, sign bills and treaties, etc. are far more threatening to this country than removing him. When he is removed all of the above would be void.

    In addition to the birth issue, there are multitudinous conflicts in his life from his contradicting explanations. Hawaii allows a citizen to register the foreign birth of their child in order to receive a Hawaiian birth certificate, the certificate can not be used in Hawaii for legal purposes such as homestead and other matters. His sister who was born in Indonesia and openly admits it also has a Hawaiian birth certificate. In my opinion, his mother worked all sides of the coin.

    Putting that aside, there are a multitude of other reasons that documents have been requested in regards to his adoption, school years, college transcripts and funding, selective service, passports, name changes, financial dealings and so many more.

    If you trust someone with your life and that of your family on his word only, then I presume you don’t check out your doctor, lawyer, baby-sitter, husband, financial adviser either. In the end you get everything you deserve, how is Madoff?

    The biggest reason that this country is in the situation it is, is because certain people just tend overlook everything and then there are certain people that shouldn’t be butting in in the first place.

    If you have no interest in the laws and constitution of this country being upheld and the ramifications of an Usurper’s intent in the most powerful seat in the world, then you should not have come here to begin with.

    Get this, I will not stop until the documents and information are released, Got it?

    I thought that I had made my feelings clear to you.

76. Rachelfriend
    February 8th, 2009 @ 8:17 pm

    Oops. I just “butted” out.

77. Had Enough
    February 8th, 2009 @ 8:30 pm

    Rachelfriend,

    I should have directed that to the person it was meant for, but she knows who she is.

    She does it on purpose, over and over, but that’s fine, I’ll just keep repeating it over and over.

78. Marjorie
    February 8th, 2009 @ 8:57 pm

    Lovisa,

    You are not defending Obama? Why is that?

    Just Answer the question and stop being evasive.

    diplomacy is not kissing butt to those who hate america

79. Rachelfriend
    February 8th, 2009 @ 9:43 pm

    Had Enough. Thanks. I actually just went to eat dinner anyway…you know I couldn’t but out.

80. Rachelfriend
    February 8th, 2009 @ 9:44 pm

    Uhh..that’s “butt” out. Maybe I should go get some sleep.

81. Jack
    February 8th, 2009 @ 10:07 pm

    The best diplomat I know is a fully charged phaser bank.” – LCDR Montgomery Scott

82. Jack
    February 9th, 2009 @ 12:03 am

    “The best diplomat I know is a fully charged phaser bank.” – LCDR Montgomery Scott

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