Go here and read the whole article. At the beginning of the article you will see “video”. Come back and watch them both. I picked this site because of the way liberals think of things. You can see the striking similarities of what they espouse and what they are doing. The word is called hypocricy.
The president laughed at this ugly comment of ill-will towards Rush Limbaugh. Looked like a bashing fest to me. A racial one at that. Is this just shameless hate or racism? Or both? We are well on our way to becoming a “heeled” country!
I posted these before:
July 2008 “When discussing “slavery reparations” with a group of “minority journalists,” Obama states, “I consistently believe that when it comes to… reparations, the most important thing for the U.S. government to do is not just offer words, but offer deeds.” Several days later, to calm fears of white taxpayers who read his remarks, Obama adds that he’s not calling for direct cash payments to descendents of slaves, but indirect aid through government programs to “close the gap” between white America and black America. The government programs will be “universal” – such as universal health care, mortgage credits, college tuition, job training, and even universal 401(k)s – programs that Obama feels “disproportionately affect people of color.” In other words, Obama does not dare propose a program to directly tax whites to give payments to blacks, so he instead offers “universal” programs for everyone, but will design them so that blacks will benefit disproportionately. (Note that one of Obama’s advisors is Professor Charles Ogletree, a prominent proponent of slavery reparations.)
Summer 2008, Reverend Leah Daughtry is named by Obama and DNC chair Howard Dean to be the Democrat Convention chief; in Daughtry’s home-town “House of the Lord Church” in Brooklyn hangs a banner supporting slavery reparations, which reads, “They Owe Us.”
On January 16, 2009, Congressman John Conyers (D-MI) introduces House Resolution 40, Reparations for African-Americans,” to create a commission to study slavery in the United States and “recommend appropriate remedies.” (Conyers has introduced the bill every year since 1989.) Note that Obama advisor Charles J. Ogletree, Jr. is a prominent advocate of slavery reparations, and the co-chair of the “Reparations Movement Coordinating Committee.”
Kiddin’
I’ll put you to a simple “yes” or “no” question since to much information seems to confuse you.
Is racist comments only meant for another race other than your own?
If you asnswer yes, then in your mind (don’t worry-mind is just a term) I was heavy handed. If the answer is no, then I wasn’t although you can’t even see the obvious statements. That’s why liberals are liberals; because they don’t know any better.
“Obama did speak out against Wright”
To the extent that he has against Limbaugh and others ? No, he has not.
“Is it your contention, dans, that when a black person criticizes a white person that is racist? Does it work the other way around.”
No, it does not. My post was to elicit a reaction such as yours, to show how silly such an argument really is…
dans,
don’t be silly:
‘“Rush’s copious rants which are typically fraught with racial undertones towards the POTUS”
I too would like to see you ‘put up’ quotes supporting this..’
is what you wrote. The Baron put up quotes or links to quotes.
ACTor,
I’m having difficulty deciphering your cryptic #52, which is a non-answer as far as I can tell. You said Sykes’ set was “rife” with racism and I am asking you to please justify your statement. I’m not trying to demean you. There were two jokes that had to deal with race and I’m giving you your likely argument that the Sojourner joke was racist. So given that there was only one other joke that had racial content, please explain how her set was “rife” with racism, unless you were just being heavy-handed.
You guys constantly move the goal posts. First you say Obama hasn’t denounced any black people. Then when you are proven wrong, you say he hasn’t denounced black people enough.
Then you say prove Limbaugh said things “fraught with racial undertones towards the POTUS” and when we do, you say, well, Obama is a racist.
It’s like arguing with Kindergartners. Thank God, the adults are finally in charge.
Kiddin’
I presented you with a question of which I gave you an answer. 2 direct racists comments are what you saw. You always see things “between” the lines. If you see no others, fine. If you do see others and also the racism of her own color ( if you are Negro and call each other the N word, that is okay-but it doesn’t make it any less racist in actions or thought. Don’t get carried away cause no one said that. THIS IS AN EXAMPLE ONLY!) then I wasn’t being heavy handed with “rife”. You are going to determine what is correct by your definition anyway so call me heavy handed. It was bad dialouge on her part mixed with hate and racism. And your president laughed.
The Usurper quietly delayed any reaction to Wright hoping that it would all just go away, but it didn’t.
In mid March 2008 BHO said, “I can no more disown him than I can my white grandmother.”
A month and a half later, after fierce public outrage on April 29, 2008 he finally distanced himself completely. Actually, that may be what he wanted people to believe.
Wright’s former church is supposed to be Christian according to BHO, but…why would a Christian church praise Louis Farrakhan and give him their highest award?
The Usurper has attended church once since they moved to DC, on Easter Sunday after constant questions regarding a church choice. He claims that they have not decided on a church yet.
The Usurper and his partner have publicly stated that they do not give their daughter Christmas or Birthday gifts, but….do they give them money?
Muslims that I have known over the years acknowledge that they do not give gifts for any occasion, but they give money for every occasion. There is strong correlation between money and Islam.
I believe that Wright’s church is a cover.
ACTor, I hear what you are saying but please make your point and cite it. If there were two moments that you felt were racist towards other races then fine (though I don’t agree). But where in the heck was she racist towards her own race? Why won’t you answer the question instead of posing another question and then answering that one? You clearly responded with “I presented you with a question of which I gave you an answer.” I can’t imagine any situation, aside from maybe a conversation with Socrates, where that is an appropriate response to being asked a question.
Kevin,
I wish to apologize to you for my harshness in answering. I have been battling an allergy headache that just won’t give up and you happen to be on the receiving end of it last night. This is not an excuse for my behavior but a reason. I will endeavor to transcript the videos to validate my point of “rife” or validate yours on heavy-handedness.
Dan Re # 41 – I agree to a certain point on the author’s comments (eg top 10).
As you requested you wanted a full text or context of an example of Rush’s racist comments.
Maybe the Young Turk’s site is what you are looking for. Here are Rush’s comments from Aug 2007 about Darfur & Mandela, click on the video.
http://news.aol.com/newsbloggers/2007/08/25/rush-limbaughs-unebelievably-racist-comments/
But here are a few of Rush’s racist/racial ziggers I managed to research:
On slavery – “it had its merits”
On James Earl Ray who assasinated MLK – “a posthumous medal of honor”
On the NFL & higher % of black – “looks like a game between the Crips and the Bloods”
On Jesse Jackson – “pictures of wanted criminals look like him”
On the NAACP – “get a liquor store and practice robberies.
Need I say more or do you need the full context of each example.
No offense taken, ACTivist, we’re enjoying ourselves, no?
I call BS on the list of Limbaugh’s supposed “ziggers”.
If he had said even a single one of those things everyone would know about it and he would no longer be on the air.
I’d like to see legitimate sources for these supposed quotes i.e. ABC, CBS, CNN etc, not some hate spewing anti-Limbaugh site.
I won’t be holding my breath.
Baron,
you are seriously reaching here. The Fed’s wpould have yanked him and tanked a long long time ago … remember what happened to Imus? You know this is crap.
What would your Catholicism tell you about repeating what you know is a lie?
Kiddin’
After reviewing the videos I will concede that “rife” was not the appropriate word. Although it was pro-Negro and anit-Caucasian, I cannot justify anything other than the blatant racial remarks. By my and definitely zimzo’s definition, there were all too many “under and over tones” of race. My initial respose was to the “hate” and I stand by that. I take these entertainers as helping to expand the division between races that this president so diligently campaigned to “heal”. You are who you associate with. Obama needs to distance himself from this type of dialouge and behaviour.
ACTivist, I appreciate your honesty. I don’t see how it was pro-Negro (and if it was that that wouldn’t be so bad) and I’m not sure it was anti-Caucasian, though I think I know why you would say it was.
If you’d like to say that Obama associates with Sykes then you’d have to say that Bush associates with Stephen Colbert. I just don’t think that a roasting equates to an endorsement.
All of that said, there IS something “racial” about his being president. He is the first Black president. It’s historic. And it was a roasting. Comedy, in my opinion, is borne out of tension. Sometimes people go too far with it, i.e. kidney failure/death.
It fascinates me how quickly things stop being funny and how universally that is socially agreed upon. Almost no one I know of so far thought those comments were funny. Some of the other jokes fell within other social boundaries.
“One step forward and two steps back” might have offended YOU but there is a great number of people who understood exactly what she meant and it was funny to them. Just because you weren’t meant to partake in that humor doesn’t mean it’s anti-Caucasian (assuming you are Caucasian).
Kevin, interesting you should make reference to the “one step forward and two steps back” bit in Sykes’ routine. It was one of the few parts of her gig that I really appreciated. It was humor and, at the same time, not humor. I personally think that it may have been one of her lines which was directed at all us regardless of race — and deservedly so.
I don’t think I have to explain my meaning to you on this, but I can provide a personal example. I have an adopted grandson who is, if you will, “mulatto.” He is two years old. Just the other day, in front of my house, he picked up a large plastic ball and started trying to dribble the thing. He actually shocked me by doing very well at it. I must admit that my very first thought was: “What do we have here? Possibly another Dr. J?” Then the Sykes comment smacked me upside the head. Why did I automatically think such a thing when I might have thought, rather, of a young man with perhaps a real M.D. after his name someday? In this I will give Sykes a plus among the many negatives I saw in her routine.
Wolverine,
“Why did I automatically think such a thing when I might have thought, rather, of a young man with perhaps a real M.D. after his name someday?”
That is not unlike one entire group of people who see basketball and rap music as two (completely separate) areas to aspire to becoming successful in.
White and Cones would argue that these are not necessarily helpful identifications for someone of color to aspire to, simply because SO FEW people become the next rap sensation or star NBA player. It is much more likely that they could become great doctors, mathematicians, philosophers, rocket scientists, writers, artists, photographers, or engineers, rather than the next hot rap artist or baller.
It’s one thing when you or I would jump to the conclusion you described, it’s another be the person to fill that role as though it’s the only prescribed identity available for getting ahead (which I don’t believe it is).
As much as one would deride James Cones or Joseph White, you really have to agree with them on this.
Agreed, Kevin. Somehow these thoughts must be gotten across to an entire generation of kids out there. Bill Cosby seems to be pushing that theme for all it is worth. His major criticism is that not nearly enough of his highly visible contemporaries are pushing it as well. He is starting to get some much needed public support — with Juan Williams being an important example of that. Let us hope they are successful, for all our sakes.
I am still scratching my head that somewhere along the line the idea of do well in school was to become a sell out to ones ethnicity in the inner city community. One is ‘acting white’ when one does well in school, how did that happen?
Kevin,
“Just because you weren’t meant to partake in that humor doesn’t mean it’s anti-Caucasian (assuming you are Caucasian).”
I understood the line and never took any offense to it (I don’t take offense to much after dealing with the yokels on this blog) and didn’t see it as anti-Caucasian. And, yes, I am a Caucasian.
Roasts for the most part are suppose to have some “heavy” humor in them. I understand that and have heard some outragious roasts that would make paint peel. When you are a leader of people (and many titles apply here), you usually get a “heads up” to the schtook of what will be said to eliminate the “offending” dialouge. At least that is the way I understood that it was suppose to happen. Obama does not have the right to just be one of the guys or our friend. He has a title and a job to preform and is already set on a different plane than the rest of us. When this isn’t allowed to happen, no one takes the “title” serious anymore-which is become very evident across the world. If he is going to be the Commander-in-Chief then he must act like it. When this stuff comes up he needs to confront those individuals with the understanding that what is going on is out-of-bounds and will not be tolerated. Maybe feathers will get ruffled but this “cozy” attitude of his only makes me feel what I already feel about him.
ACTivist, ok so it was pro-Negro (which is not a bad thing if it is) and anti-Caucasian (though you admit to being unable to support this assessment). Regarding your distaste for whatever it is you intuit is going on here, you MUST have missed Colbert’s roast of Bush. You’re gripe is with Sykes, not Obama. Here’s a snippet from the Colbert bit in 2006:
“Now, I know there are some polls out there saying this man has a 32 percent approval rating. But guys like us, we don’t pay attention to the polls. We know that polls are just a collection of statistics that reflect what people are thinking in ‘reality’. And reality has a well-known liberal bias. … Sir, pay no attention to the people who say the glass is half empty, because 32% means it’s two-thirds empty. There’s still some liquid in that glass, is my point. But I wouldn’t drink it. The last third is usually backwash.”
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-869183917758574879
Jacob, take a stab at where the reasoning came from, however faulty.
Prester John, I agree with you. I would like to see real sources for the Rush quotes. I’ve been waiting for Baron to post them, but so far nothing. If Rush said them, I’d like to know. If he didn’t, someone should “man up” and admit they made them up in the continuing saga of “Branding Rush a Racist”.