We are already the scapegoat and have been the official one in Iran since 1979.

I doubt it.

Christopher Hitchens shows why we will get blamed for anything anyway:

http://slate.com/id/2221020

dans, I agree with most of what you said (for once) in #6 except the

“while ignoring the million plus people here that want to see his birth certificate ? Reality is that for every protestor we see on the video feeds from Iran, there is one or more here who believe his election to be fraudulent”

as a reason his hands are tied. Even though, or even if, there are a million people who want to see his birth certificate, that’s the population of a city the size of Philadelphia. Even if 40% of America wanted to see his birth certificate it wouldn’t be the reason.

I think you are overestimating the importance of that conspiracy. If you need to trash the man, who is more circumstantially bound than anything else, I think the “experience” gripe would hold more water.

Clinging to that, and Jacob’s entire #7, makes you sound like you’ve been wandering for the past 40 days and 40 nights in the wilderness of crazy conservative blogs without much exposure to any other media.

Jaconb, don’t be silly.

“You on the other hand are busy drooling, and begging to believe in the messiah — but I am the nut hey?”

does nothing to explain how I view the current president. Recall that it’s you and your pals here who continuously refer to him as “the messiah” and the fact that I point out ridiculous arguments you make does not make me “drooling” over him.

“I am the nut hey?” implies that you’re saying I’m the nut.

Ok, Jacob.

I can’t speak for Kevin but I think Obama has done a pretty good job so far and it’s too early to say whether he will be a successful and effective president or not. I suspect that is what most Americans believe as well.

Jacob on the other hand seems to believe that if you don’t think Obama is the antichrist then you must be “busy drooling, and begging to believe in the messiah.” I guess it makes him feel better to think that those he disagrees with are as extreme and out of touch as he is but it is not a very accurate picture of what most people believe.

Kevin, if you read (and comprehend) my post, will will find no expression of my thoughts on the matter, only a report of the FACT that there are many that are concerned with this.

If you fail to recognize that there are many, many, people who question Obama’s legitimacy based on the question of his being natural born, this is a good sign that you do need to spend less time in the bars, and more time out among humanity.

Forgive me if I seem not to understand this; but doesn’t Kevin (and Zimzo as well) seem awfully eager to jump in and make comments on this “crazy conservative blog”? I would have expected them to be seen more often in liberal places such Operative Word or anti-BVBL; but I guess those two are smart enough to appreciate where the real action is. Well, beat me with a stick and then pass the beer! Diversity is wonderful, isn’t it? Provided you have a thick skin and a hard skull.

dans, or joe, or whoever you are (how else could you know I spend 24/7 at the bar?), of course you expressed your thoughts. While reporting your FACT that many are concerned with it, you further state that it is your belief that this was why he is not more outspoken about Iran. If I had some difficulty comprehending that, it’s simply that the point is incomprehensible.

I concede that there may be many who discredit BO over the “He won’t show me his birth certificate!!”. I’ve never said any differently. It still doesn’t make for the reason his hands are tied, though you believe it so. The reason is more circumstantial (i.e. pertaining to the circumstances at hand) than it is over some crackpot idea that he somehow KNOWS he has no legitimacy here in the ole USA because a group of people are asking to see his birth cert. As I said, that conspiracy means more to you than it should. It’s almost as if you’re developing ideas of reference.

And Woof, this is one of the “craziest” conservative blogs, hands down. Going to one of those liberal blogs would be boring, I’d rather spend my time with the crazies.

He’s indefensible. He authorizes payments to his attorneys to attempt to defeat the discovery. If he had no problems in the area, he’d simply turn it over.
Everyone of us has to show ours. It looks bad when he appears as someone who thinks he’s above the common man.

“I concede that there may be many who discredit BO over the “He won’t show me his birth certificate!!”. I’ve never said any differently. It still doesn’t make for the reason his hands are tied, though you believe it so. The reason is more circumstantial (i.e. pertaining to the circumstances at hand) than it is over some crackpot idea that he somehow KNOWS he has no legitimacy here in the ole USA because a group of people are asking to see his birth cert. As I said, that conspiracy means more to you than it should. It’s almost as if you’re developing ideas of reference.”

Jacob, a quick read through this thread and you’ll see the madness of which I speak. . .

Still, yes, it is nice that you don’t delete comments that disagree with yours.

“some crackpot idea that he somehow KNOWS he has no legitimacy here in the ole USA because a group of people are asking to see his birth cert.”

The eligibility issue started several years before the election, actually it began while he was a state senator.

One of the first people requesting documents from him was a reporter from a NY newspaper, the reporter questioned him because he went to a class reunion that was in the Usurper’s class year and not one student had ever heard of him or remembered him, BHO wouldn’t respond.

Hawaii issued Certificates Of Live Birth to children born in foreign countries if a parent meets residence requirements (not necessarily a citizen parent). The certificate has limited use in Hawaii and other jurisdictions and agencies, it can’t be used for homestead and many other legal purposes, it is a limited use document. His sister who was born in Indonesia also has the same Hawaiian birth certificate.

Actually, the birth certificate makes no difference, he, himself confirmed that he was not eligible when he wrote that his father was not a citizen. Kenya was under British Rule when he was born, his father was a British Subject, under British law, BHO was himself a British subject through his father.

If he was born in Kenya as his grandmother stated, he mother was too young to confer citizenship to him, but he would have still been a dual citizen.

Records in Indonesia show that he was adopted by his step father and his religion Muslim, he then used his adopted name, “Barry Soetoro.”

He has also used the name Barry Dunham, Barry Obama and a few others, why?

There have been private investigators that have also uncovered numerous social security numbers for him

So much information has surfaced, but he is refusing any information or documents to prove or disprove the information.

The people who voted for him, voted for someone that has no past beyond 20 years ago, nothing. They put someone who won’t even discuss who he is or where he is from in the white house with our most sensitive secrets, documents and power to make us or break us. Way to go people, you most likely checked out your dog sitter more thoroughly.

I rest my case.

Joe

Can you prove that you’re in Louisville?
Maybe you took a little side trip to So. America.

And we all know you can’t ghostwrite while in the fair state of Kentucky. Why, the distilleries alone prohibit it. You should visit the Bourbon Trail.