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		<title>By: dans</title>
		<link>http://novatownhall.com/2009/07/02/shovel-ready-project-watch/comment-page-1/#comment-25071</link>
		<dc:creator>dans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 22:57:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bam Bam, I like that. Guess that makes Pelosi Fruity Pebbles ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bam Bam, I like that. Guess that makes Pelosi Fruity Pebbles ?</p>
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		<title>By: dans</title>
		<link>http://novatownhall.com/2009/07/02/shovel-ready-project-watch/comment-page-1/#comment-25070</link>
		<dc:creator>dans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 22:56:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, you are talking about THAT quitter..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, you are talking about THAT quitter..</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://novatownhall.com/2009/07/02/shovel-ready-project-watch/comment-page-1/#comment-25064</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 19:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you mean Obama the president? Rofl!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you mean Obama the president? Rofl!</p>
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		<title>By: dans</title>
		<link>http://novatownhall.com/2009/07/02/shovel-ready-project-watch/comment-page-1/#comment-25061</link>
		<dc:creator>dans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 18:44:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Quitter!&quot;

Are you referring to Obama not completing his term in the Senate ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Quitter!&#8221;</p>
<p>Are you referring to Obama not completing his term in the Senate ?</p>
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		<title>By: The Bulletproof Monk</title>
		<link>http://novatownhall.com/2009/07/02/shovel-ready-project-watch/comment-page-1/#comment-25060</link>
		<dc:creator>The Bulletproof Monk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 17:55:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bam Bam said no taxes on businesses. ...and folks who make $250K....er...$150K..er...$100K.
This much is certain. As more and more lose jobs due to this &quot;brilliant&quot; plan by he and congress...the porrer his approval will be and we&#039;ll wash our hands of the jackass in three years and change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bam Bam said no taxes on businesses. &#8230;and folks who make $250K&#8230;.er&#8230;$150K..er&#8230;$100K.<br />
This much is certain. As more and more lose jobs due to this &#8220;brilliant&#8221; plan by he and congress&#8230;the porrer his approval will be and we&#8217;ll wash our hands of the jackass in three years and change.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://novatownhall.com/2009/07/02/shovel-ready-project-watch/comment-page-1/#comment-25050</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 23:50:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quitter!</description>
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		<title>By: Lovisa</title>
		<link>http://novatownhall.com/2009/07/02/shovel-ready-project-watch/comment-page-1/#comment-25049</link>
		<dc:creator>Lovisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 22:53:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So - what do you think about Gov. Palin bailing from her Alaska job after two and a half years?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So &#8211; what do you think about Gov. Palin bailing from her Alaska job after two and a half years?</p>
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		<title>By: dans</title>
		<link>http://novatownhall.com/2009/07/02/shovel-ready-project-watch/comment-page-1/#comment-25041</link>
		<dc:creator>dans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 18:09:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;He had it up to 5-6 employees at the time the economic downturn really started.&quot;

Bingo Wolv, this is where the jobs are being lost. 

Maybe the question needs to be &quot;the business is too small to fail&quot; and not &quot;too big to fail&quot;.. and it&#039;s gonna get worse for them if Cap-and-Tax passes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;He had it up to 5-6 employees at the time the economic downturn really started.&#8221;</p>
<p>Bingo Wolv, this is where the jobs are being lost. </p>
<p>Maybe the question needs to be &#8220;the business is too small to fail&#8221; and not &#8220;too big to fail&#8221;.. and it&#8217;s gonna get worse for them if Cap-and-Tax passes.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://novatownhall.com/2009/07/02/shovel-ready-project-watch/comment-page-1/#comment-25033</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 14:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Uh huh&quot;

Seriously.  Where&#039;s the discussion?

So, the money had time limits on it and if it wasn&#039;t &quot;used&quot; it was taken away.  Did ALL the States reject it?  I&#039;m positive that&#039;s not the case.

So, what happened?  

I agree with you.  What&#039;s up with it?  Where are the friggin&#039; jobs?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Uh huh&#8221;</p>
<p>Seriously.  Where&#8217;s the discussion?</p>
<p>So, the money had time limits on it and if it wasn&#8217;t &#8220;used&#8221; it was taken away.  Did ALL the States reject it?  I&#8217;m positive that&#8217;s not the case.</p>
<p>So, what happened?  </p>
<p>I agree with you.  What&#8217;s up with it?  Where are the friggin&#8217; jobs?</p>
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		<title>By: Wolverine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wolverine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 13:12:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a relative who started a small business a few years ago.  He had it up to 5-6 employees at the time the economic downturn really started.  He is now down to himself and his founding partner.  He even had to let his accountant go and move the business from his office to his home.  Some of the opportunity is still there, meaning he and the founding partner are swamped with actual work; but business costs and business taxes have nearly killed it all. Too bad someone in Washington and Richmond couldn&#039;t have come up with an idea about tax breaks.  As it is, we will probably have a stimulus package facilitate the temporary repair of the road that goes right by a business office no longer occupied and the homes of a number of people who no longer have jobs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a relative who started a small business a few years ago.  He had it up to 5-6 employees at the time the economic downturn really started.  He is now down to himself and his founding partner.  He even had to let his accountant go and move the business from his office to his home.  Some of the opportunity is still there, meaning he and the founding partner are swamped with actual work; but business costs and business taxes have nearly killed it all. Too bad someone in Washington and Richmond couldn&#8217;t have come up with an idea about tax breaks.  As it is, we will probably have a stimulus package facilitate the temporary repair of the road that goes right by a business office no longer occupied and the homes of a number of people who no longer have jobs.</p>
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		<title>By: Shiplap</title>
		<link>http://novatownhall.com/2009/07/02/shovel-ready-project-watch/comment-page-1/#comment-25028</link>
		<dc:creator>Shiplap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 05:33:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;agree with you&quot;

Uh huh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;agree with you&#8221;</p>
<p>Uh huh</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://novatownhall.com/2009/07/02/shovel-ready-project-watch/comment-page-1/#comment-25027</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 04:26:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, the homeless $ was not part of the shovel ready funds, duh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, the homeless $ was not part of the shovel ready funds, duh.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://novatownhall.com/2009/07/02/shovel-ready-project-watch/comment-page-1/#comment-25026</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 04:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lipflam, &quot;Can you point me to where the projects discussed in the Post are underway and actively hiring unemployed Virginians Kevin ?&quot;

I agree with you and you want to argue!!

I HAVE heard of $ given to towns for beefing up their homeless services when they haven&#039;t even started homeless programs.  This was reported on NPR, believe it or not.

What is the problem with this money, I ask?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lipflam, &#8220;Can you point me to where the projects discussed in the Post are underway and actively hiring unemployed Virginians Kevin ?&#8221;</p>
<p>I agree with you and you want to argue!!</p>
<p>I HAVE heard of $ given to towns for beefing up their homeless services when they haven&#8217;t even started homeless programs.  This was reported on NPR, believe it or not.</p>
<p>What is the problem with this money, I ask?</p>
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		<title>By: Shiplap</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shiplap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 03:23:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm.. homeless services are &quot;shovel ready&quot; projects ? Interesting and imaginative extrapolation. I would certainly hope they are not stirring the soup and stew pots with a shovel, not sure about your habits, but I imagine the homeless would prefer a spoon.

Can you point me to where the projects discussed in the Post are underway and actively hiring unemployed Virginians Kevin ? Like I said above, please let us know where one of the projects is actually putting people to work. I take it you are saying that you too are unable to find one ?

&quot;have the potential&quot;,&quot;could be&quot;

Yes, this is definitively job creation. Hope you are not betting your livelihood on a Post opinion piece. Imagine those that have some skin in the game are not. 

The shovel ready projects in Virginia Beach have caused a rise in unemployment rate from 6.5% to 7%, from April to May is what I hear you saying ? 

Oh yeah, do you understand Shovel Ready ?

Popular Mechanics was right on the money when they wrote this in 
Feb :

http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/industry/4302578.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm.. homeless services are &#8220;shovel ready&#8221; projects ? Interesting and imaginative extrapolation. I would certainly hope they are not stirring the soup and stew pots with a shovel, not sure about your habits, but I imagine the homeless would prefer a spoon.</p>
<p>Can you point me to where the projects discussed in the Post are underway and actively hiring unemployed Virginians Kevin ? Like I said above, please let us know where one of the projects is actually putting people to work. I take it you are saying that you too are unable to find one ?</p>
<p>&#8220;have the potential&#8221;,&#8221;could be&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, this is definitively job creation. Hope you are not betting your livelihood on a Post opinion piece. Imagine those that have some skin in the game are not. </p>
<p>The shovel ready projects in Virginia Beach have caused a rise in unemployment rate from 6.5% to 7%, from April to May is what I hear you saying ? </p>
<p>Oh yeah, do you understand Shovel Ready ?</p>
<p>Popular Mechanics was right on the money when they wrote this in<br />
Feb :</p>
<p><a href="http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/industry/4302578.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/industry/4302578.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 00:57:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, LipFlap, if it isn&#039;t reported here, it isn&#039;t happening!  

Seriously, though, if it&#039;s not happening, why not?  Even VA Beach seems to have a plan:
http://www.americantowns.com/va/virginiabeach/news/digging-into-shovel-ready-projects-in-the-virginia-beach-area-169064

Has the money not gone out?  I&#039;m already hearing stories about towns receiving $ to expand homeless services where they have no homeless services infrastructure.

What gives?  Are the States just in the planning stages of the implementation stage?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/02/04/AR2009020401391.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, LipFlap, if it isn&#8217;t reported here, it isn&#8217;t happening!  </p>
<p>Seriously, though, if it&#8217;s not happening, why not?  Even VA Beach seems to have a plan:<br />
<a href="http://www.americantowns.com/va/virginiabeach/news/digging-into-shovel-ready-projects-in-the-virginia-beach-area-169064" rel="nofollow">http://www.americantowns.com/va/virginiabeach/news/digging-into-shovel-ready-projects-in-the-virginia-beach-area-169064</a></p>
<p>Has the money not gone out?  I&#8217;m already hearing stories about towns receiving $ to expand homeless services where they have no homeless services infrastructure.</p>
<p>What gives?  Are the States just in the planning stages of the implementation stage?<br />
<a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/02/04/AR2009020401391.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/02/04/AR2009020401391.html</a></p>
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