Comments on: The Chicago Way Comes to Virginia http://novatownhall.com/2009/09/21/the-chicago-way-comes-to-virginia/ updated, and a little more mellow Wed, 17 Mar 2010 04:55:27 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Wolverine http://novatownhall.com/2009/09/21/the-chicago-way-comes-to-virginia/comment-page-2/#comment-28550 Wolverine Mon, 28 Sep 2009 01:08:46 +0000 http://novatownhall.com/2009/09/21/the-chicago-way-comes-to-virginia/#comment-28550 Blackout, you completely nailed it in your last post on the LI website. It certainly does appear to me that Major David DesRosier is being "pumped" by someone around here. That was evident from his very first post (22 Sept., 16:22, last sentence in caps) which demonstrated total confusion between the 2007 school board election and the 2009 delegate election --- in fact, complete ignorance about the 2009 election. Now he comes out with a few details on the 2007 election but still shows a lack of in-depth knowledge --- as in the fact that Greason ran as a write-in candidate and garnered an unusually large number of votes. The capper was his latest claim that Greason has a "checkered past." This smacks of the DesRosiers being fed a slanted line and not bothering to do their own double check of the facts on the internet. Very surprising since both are educated professionals, he a dietician/nutritionist and she apparently having gotten a degree in psychology or close to getting one in Hawaii. BTW, Major DesRosier was in charge of food and nutrition at Fort Polk in the late 1990's, which is how he met Sherry apparently. Blackout, you completely nailed it in your last post on the LI website. It certainly does appear to me that Major David DesRosier is being “pumped” by someone around here. That was evident from his very first post (22 Sept., 16:22, last sentence in caps) which demonstrated total confusion between the 2007 school board election and the 2009 delegate election — in fact, complete ignorance about the 2009 election. Now he comes out with a few details on the 2007 election but still shows a lack of in-depth knowledge — as in the fact that Greason ran as a write-in candidate and garnered an unusually large number of votes. The capper was his latest claim that Greason has a “checkered past.” This smacks of the DesRosiers being fed a slanted line and not bothering to do their own double check of the facts on the internet. Very surprising since both are educated professionals, he a dietician/nutritionist and she apparently having gotten a degree in psychology or close to getting one in Hawaii. BTW, Major DesRosier was in charge of food and nutrition at Fort Polk in the late 1990’s, which is how he met Sherry apparently.

]]> By: Cathymac http://novatownhall.com/2009/09/21/the-chicago-way-comes-to-virginia/comment-page-2/#comment-28546 Cathymac Sun, 27 Sep 2009 23:30:32 +0000 http://novatownhall.com/2009/09/21/the-chicago-way-comes-to-virginia/#comment-28546 Did the story come out in print? Did the story come out in print?

]]> By: BlackOut http://novatownhall.com/2009/09/21/the-chicago-way-comes-to-virginia/comment-page-2/#comment-28545 BlackOut Sun, 27 Sep 2009 21:22:09 +0000 http://novatownhall.com/2009/09/21/the-chicago-way-comes-to-virginia/#comment-28545 An entire news cycle has run since this article and no other media outlet has picked it up. I still want to know who is behind this story? An entire news cycle has run since this article and no other media outlet has picked it up. I still want to know who is behind this story?

]]> By: The Bulletproof Monk http://novatownhall.com/2009/09/21/the-chicago-way-comes-to-virginia/comment-page-2/#comment-28516 The Bulletproof Monk Fri, 25 Sep 2009 22:05:34 +0000 http://novatownhall.com/2009/09/21/the-chicago-way-comes-to-virginia/#comment-28516 Hale is a political neanderthal. His two-faced and hypocritical past was called in the thread by our own Blackout... In combination with Ric James (bitch), and Sally ....they're really having a difficult time of this (supposed to be a slamdunk) smear job. Hale is a political neanderthal. His two-faced and hypocritical past was called in the thread by our own Blackout…
In combination with Ric James (bitch), and Sally ….they’re really having a difficult time of this (supposed to be a slamdunk) smear job.

]]> By: LoCoVa http://novatownhall.com/2009/09/21/the-chicago-way-comes-to-virginia/comment-page-2/#comment-28510 LoCoVa Fri, 25 Sep 2009 19:02:11 +0000 http://novatownhall.com/2009/09/21/the-chicago-way-comes-to-virginia/#comment-28510 Why don't we call it what it is: politics as usual. Dirty tricks, anonymous sources, scandalous charges that are unsubstantiated all mark this assault on the electorial process. Now, while I do NOT agree with Tag Greason on many issues, I will not stand by and see a good man's name ruined due to rumor and innuendo. The Loudoun Independent should not have published the story, since 1) the case was dismissed, and more importantly,2) he was not convicted of anything. This story was nothing more than an effort to inject some drama and scandal into a fair and clean campaign. To run such a story is unacceptable, if not irresponsible. The Tag Greason I met is a good businessman, interested in his community, and believes in the family values that he claims to believe in. It is evident by his life. To run a story such as this is shameful. Shame on you, Loudoun Independent, shame on you. Why don’t we call it what it is: politics as usual. Dirty tricks, anonymous sources, scandalous charges that are unsubstantiated all mark this assault on the electorial process.

Now, while I do NOT agree with Tag Greason on many issues, I will not stand by and see a good man’s name ruined due to rumor and innuendo. The Loudoun Independent should not have published the story, since 1) the case was dismissed, and more importantly,2) he was not convicted of anything. This story was nothing more than an effort to inject some drama and scandal into a fair and clean campaign. To run such a story is unacceptable, if not irresponsible.

The Tag Greason I met is a good businessman, interested in his community, and believes in the family values that he claims to believe in. It is evident by his life. To run a story such as this is shameful.

Shame on you, Loudoun Independent, shame on you.

]]> By: Wolverine http://novatownhall.com/2009/09/21/the-chicago-way-comes-to-virginia/comment-page-2/#comment-28509 Wolverine Fri, 25 Sep 2009 18:49:48 +0000 http://novatownhall.com/2009/09/21/the-chicago-way-comes-to-virginia/#comment-28509 Research time. In various posts on the LI website the alleged husband posted under "Edward", "Dave", and "David Desrosier", mostly as "Edward." One blogger, calling himself Henry Hale, claimed that the alleged victim had called him. Hale said that her name was "Sherry DesRosier" Major David Edward DesRosier and Sgt Sherry M. DesRosier, husband and wife with two kids. Go to Google and plug in "Sherry DesRosier" On page one you will find a 2005 story and photo which includes this couple from The Honolulu Advertiser. Go to the White Pages and plug in his name. You will get their (apparently) current address and phone number. BTW, Maj. Dave appears to have been a heavyweight weight-lifting titlist in Hawaii. This appears to be the couple in question. Not evidence, however, that it is they who are doing the posting on the LI blog. Research time. In various posts on the LI website the alleged husband posted under “Edward”, “Dave”, and “David Desrosier”, mostly as “Edward.” One blogger, calling himself Henry Hale, claimed that the alleged victim had called him. Hale said that her name was “Sherry DesRosier”

Major David Edward DesRosier and Sgt Sherry M. DesRosier, husband and wife with two kids. Go to Google and plug in “Sherry DesRosier” On page one you will find a 2005 story and photo which includes this couple from The Honolulu Advertiser. Go to the White Pages and plug in his name. You will get their (apparently) current address and phone number. BTW, Maj. Dave appears to have been a heavyweight weight-lifting titlist in Hawaii.

This appears to be the couple in question. Not evidence, however, that it is they who are doing the posting on the LI blog.

]]> By: Barbara Munsey http://novatownhall.com/2009/09/21/the-chicago-way-comes-to-virginia/comment-page-2/#comment-28505 Barbara Munsey Fri, 25 Sep 2009 16:37:35 +0000 http://novatownhall.com/2009/09/21/the-chicago-way-comes-to-virginia/#comment-28505 One thing that might narrow this down a bit is if the website at the paper would display IP addresses--NOT EMAILS for all posts. It would not conclusively prove who anyone is, but if the DesRosier posters are a set of sockpuppets, as some seem to think, a set of IPs in differing locations (maybe some local?) would go a long way to debunking some of the hysteria. This blog and Hoodathunk had a good result in getting the paper to address some issues. Maybe the next step is to ask that some of the vitriol and confusion be remedied through a posting of IPs? One thing that might narrow this down a bit is if the website at the paper would display IP addresses–NOT EMAILS for all posts.

It would not conclusively prove who anyone is, but if the DesRosier posters are a set of sockpuppets, as some seem to think, a set of IPs in differing locations (maybe some local?) would go a long way to debunking some of the hysteria.

This blog and Hoodathunk had a good result in getting the paper to address some issues.

Maybe the next step is to ask that some of the vitriol and confusion be remedied through a posting of IPs?

]]> By: Cathymac http://novatownhall.com/2009/09/21/the-chicago-way-comes-to-virginia/comment-page-2/#comment-28504 Cathymac Fri, 25 Sep 2009 16:15:44 +0000 http://novatownhall.com/2009/09/21/the-chicago-way-comes-to-virginia/#comment-28504 Sally, look on there now - the husband just went ape-shit. I say save the posts in case LI deletes them. Sally, look on there now – the husband just went ape-shit. I say save the posts in case LI deletes them.

]]> By: sally http://novatownhall.com/2009/09/21/the-chicago-way-comes-to-virginia/comment-page-2/#comment-28503 sally Fri, 25 Sep 2009 15:28:17 +0000 http://novatownhall.com/2009/09/21/the-chicago-way-comes-to-virginia/#comment-28503 I just spoke with Mr. Geddie, and asked him who had given him information. He said it was not "local" as in Loudoun... that he had emails and telephone calls on this (that he would not reveal), but in terms of other research had only gotten the court records, spoken to Tag, his campaign manager, his former commander, and the lady (not her husband) He would not tell me if he had discussed this with Poisson or his campaign. Also I told him the husband was posting under a lot of names, and using very foul and aggressive language. He has not been reading the blog posts, he said he did not realize this. Then, he proposed he would delete the posts, and I asked him not to do that, because it shows how crazy this couple seems and shows so many inconsistencies that look like lies--so he is going to insert (expletive) for the swear words... The "husband" seems abusive, and incredibly angry for someone who never met Tag, or bothered to wonder why his wife did not want to file the complaints, or how the case got dismissed without his knowledge of it (did she just not tell him?) Strange, and it's too bad that this junk is out there for such a nice guy as Tag is, and for his really wonderful family. I just spoke with Mr. Geddie, and asked him who had given him information. He said it was not “local” as in Loudoun… that he had emails and telephone calls on this (that he would not reveal), but in terms of other research had only gotten the court records, spoken to Tag, his campaign manager, his former commander, and the lady (not her husband) He would not tell me if he had discussed this with Poisson or his campaign.

Also I told him the husband was posting under a lot of names, and using very foul and aggressive language. He has not been reading the blog posts, he said he did not realize this.

Then, he proposed he would delete the posts, and I asked him not to do that, because it shows how crazy this couple seems and shows so many inconsistencies that look like lies–so he is going to insert (expletive) for the swear words…

The “husband” seems abusive, and incredibly angry for someone who never met Tag, or bothered to wonder why his wife did not want to file the complaints, or how the case got dismissed without his knowledge of it (did she just not tell him?)

Strange, and it’s too bad that this junk is out there for such a nice guy as Tag is, and for his really wonderful family.

]]> By: Cathymac http://novatownhall.com/2009/09/21/the-chicago-way-comes-to-virginia/comment-page-2/#comment-28502 Cathymac Fri, 25 Sep 2009 15:11:33 +0000 http://novatownhall.com/2009/09/21/the-chicago-way-comes-to-virginia/#comment-28502 LI, I tend to agree on your Miller story analysis, and I am not fan of Miller either. Loudoun Enquirer is correct. LI, I tend to agree on your Miller story analysis, and I am not fan of Miller either. Loudoun Enquirer is correct.

]]> By: Loudoun Insider http://novatownhall.com/2009/09/21/the-chicago-way-comes-to-virginia/comment-page-2/#comment-28500 Loudoun Insider Fri, 25 Sep 2009 14:53:14 +0000 http://novatownhall.com/2009/09/21/the-chicago-way-comes-to-virginia/#comment-28500 All this talk of LI! I wish I was posting to chime in on this mess - I should be back up in a week or two. The Independent leadership has obviously made a conscious decision to become the tabloid of Loudoun County. Why not just call it the Loudoun Enquirer? The Miller story they ran was ridiculous (and I am no big Miller fan), based on an anymous sources blog post for a blog that gets very little traffic. This story and its subsequent editorial are absolute frigging messes. They slam both sides of the political aisle, but one thing they both have in common is an astonishing lack of thoroughness and a generall gossipy way about them. That is typically more blog fare than newspaper fare, but it fits with a paper in bankruptcy trying to keep its head out of the quicksand. I do guarantee it is driving their web hits up and I haven't seen that many comments on a local newspaper site in some time. It's working in driving eyes to the website but I think it wil backfire in the long run, especially with advertisers if the general public opinion of it goes down the crapper. Speaking of crap, I've always been used to seeing bad language on blogs, and heck I've used plenty myself. But I've never seen a newspaper let people get away with writing shit and fuck in comments, which seem to be favorite words of the "husband". More indication of the gutter-dredging of Geddie and Burns. All this talk of LI!

I wish I was posting to chime in on this mess – I should be back up in a week or two.

The Independent leadership has obviously made a conscious decision to become the tabloid of Loudoun County. Why not just call it the Loudoun Enquirer? The Miller story they ran was ridiculous (and I am no big Miller fan), based on an anymous sources blog post for a blog that gets very little traffic. This story and its subsequent editorial are absolute frigging messes. They slam both sides of the political aisle, but one thing they both have in common is an astonishing lack of thoroughness and a generall gossipy way about them. That is typically more blog fare than newspaper fare, but it fits with a paper in bankruptcy trying to keep its head out of the quicksand. I do guarantee it is driving their web hits up and I haven’t seen that many comments on a local newspaper site in some time. It’s working in driving eyes to the website but I think it wil backfire in the long run, especially with advertisers if the general public opinion of it goes down the crapper.

Speaking of crap, I’ve always been used to seeing bad language on blogs, and heck I’ve used plenty myself. But I’ve never seen a newspaper let people get away with writing shit and fuck in comments, which seem to be favorite words of the “husband”. More indication of the gutter-dredging of Geddie and Burns.

]]> By: Cathymac http://novatownhall.com/2009/09/21/the-chicago-way-comes-to-virginia/comment-page-2/#comment-28499 Cathymac Fri, 25 Sep 2009 14:10:54 +0000 http://novatownhall.com/2009/09/21/the-chicago-way-comes-to-virginia/#comment-28499 I saw the back and forth on the LI from the "husband" and his posts were erratic. Even stranger, there is another poster that is claiming to be a conduit for this couple. It's very bizarre, and I'm glad Tag is looking past this injustice and focusing on the issues facing LC. I just got a mailer of Tag's - it looks great and frames the proper issuses. I saw the back and forth on the LI from the “husband” and his posts were erratic. Even stranger, there is another poster that is claiming to be a conduit for this couple.

It’s very bizarre, and I’m glad Tag is looking past this injustice and focusing on the issues facing LC. I just got a mailer of Tag’s – it looks great and frames the proper issuses.

]]> By: sally http://novatownhall.com/2009/09/21/the-chicago-way-comes-to-virginia/comment-page-2/#comment-28498 sally Fri, 25 Sep 2009 13:06:44 +0000 http://novatownhall.com/2009/09/21/the-chicago-way-comes-to-virginia/#comment-28498 On the Loudoun Independent blog, a person claiming to be her husband and posting under at least 5 different names "Dave" "Edward" "David" "David Edward" etc says that he met her after the sister filed the first complaint. He says it was ignored (maybe because the sister filed it and not the so called victim.) He says he was so upset that he helped her file a second complaint. Several times he explodes in foul language, threatening scary stuff. Then later he blogs that "we" were never notified of any of the proceedings, or that the case was dismissed. He seems to have taken ownership of the claim, and pretty controlling. She did not want the article in the paper or her name revealed, but there it is--in a blog. The only notices would have gone to her--not to him. I find it hard to believe that she did not know, and find it easier to believe that she ignored the notices and has hidden this from her angry and abusive sounding husband, who insisted she go forward with the charge in 1996. He has an explosive temper, and maybe just maybe she got caught in some sort of exaggeration or "story" for sympathy to her sister, that got repeated to her new husband--who got upset about it all and forced her to file a complaint. How else can it be explained that she would not follow the case, not know anything? I find it hard to believe that she was not properly notified by the prosecutor or the Court. He says she is still waiting for her day in court? Still pretending to her "husband?" But she has not been keeping up with it? She says she does not want this in the paper but he is blogging saying he hopes to slam Tag Greason's career (who he has never met.) Sounds to me like she married a control freak, who does not honor her wishes, who she cannot be totally honest with...who forced this on her, out of misguided "honor" because she could not admit to him that she was flawed, and may not always tell him the whole truth...and she is afraid of him... Crazy reading, and sorry for you Tag. And your family... On the Loudoun Independent blog, a person claiming to be her husband and posting under at least 5 different names “Dave” “Edward” “David” “David Edward” etc says that he met her after the sister filed the first complaint. He says it was ignored (maybe because the sister filed it and not the so called victim.) He says he was so upset that he helped her file a second complaint. Several times he explodes in foul language, threatening scary stuff. Then later he blogs that “we” were never notified of any of the proceedings, or that the case was dismissed. He seems to have taken ownership of the claim, and pretty controlling. She did not want the article in the paper or her name revealed, but there it is–in a blog.

The only notices would have gone to her–not to him. I find it hard to believe that she did not know, and find it easier to believe that she ignored the notices and has hidden this from her angry and abusive sounding husband, who insisted she go forward with the charge in 1996. He has an explosive temper, and maybe just maybe she got caught in some sort of exaggeration or “story” for sympathy to her sister, that got repeated to her new husband–who got upset about it all and forced her to file a complaint. How else can it be explained that she would not follow the case, not know anything? I find it hard to believe that she was not properly notified by the prosecutor or the Court.

He says she is still waiting for her day in court? Still pretending to her “husband?” But she has not been keeping up with it? She says she does not want this in the paper but he is blogging saying he hopes to slam Tag Greason’s career (who he has never met.) Sounds to me like she married a control freak, who does not honor her wishes, who she cannot be totally honest with…who forced this on her, out of misguided “honor” because she could not admit to him that she was flawed, and may not always tell him the whole truth…and she is afraid of him…

Crazy reading, and sorry for you Tag. And your family…

]]> By: Wolverine http://novatownhall.com/2009/09/21/the-chicago-way-comes-to-virginia/comment-page-2/#comment-28495 Wolverine Fri, 25 Sep 2009 07:56:11 +0000 http://novatownhall.com/2009/09/21/the-chicago-way-comes-to-virginia/#comment-28495 G. Stone -- I need your e-mail address. Have Joe send it to me. G. Stone — I need your e-mail address. Have Joe send it to me.

]]> By: The Bulletproof Monk http://novatownhall.com/2009/09/21/the-chicago-way-comes-to-virginia/comment-page-2/#comment-28487 The Bulletproof Monk Fri, 25 Sep 2009 02:50:59 +0000 http://novatownhall.com/2009/09/21/the-chicago-way-comes-to-virginia/#comment-28487 And like Deeds...Poisson seems to be putting all of his eggs in a basket with a hole in it. And like Deeds…Poisson seems to be putting all of his eggs in a basket with a hole in it.

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