Janet Napolitano, “Watch Out For Muslims”
Author | jacob | Posted on | November 12, 2009 | 22 Comments
Janet is worried about Muslims. In her bizarre world Muslims are the targets of White, Christian oppression here in our country. Muslims are also the targets of attack by returning veterans according to dear Janet.
It requires a level of unimaginable blind hate to level such broad, vile accusations at these two groups. The first is statistically the most peaceful in the country and the least likely to carry out an attack against anyone. The veterans, are statistically more likely than some other groups to be involved in a legal incident, however, when one considers their service they are worthy of praise, to target them as potential domestic terrorists is a national betrayal.
Christian killings of abortion doctors, a liberal bugaboo, numbers 6 incidents and 9 deaths. Muslim based violence, killing in the name of Allah, in this country alone the body count is 3000+. When taken in its totality across the globe, it runs into the tens of thousands. 909 in the month of October, 2009 alone — and counting! From the attack by a Muslim on a military recruiting station, to the Muslim trying to run students over at a college campus, to 9/11 — every reason is explored, “for why they hate us?“ The better question is what will it take to make them stop, aside from a mass national conversion to Islam. But dear Janet is worried. What are returning vets, gun owners, Christians and Republican going to do to the Muslims in America?
Janet Napolitano is part of the problem. The political correctness of the DHS and the ARMY is ridiculous. This PC mentality is what allowed Nidal Malik Hasan to remain in the Army even though he espoused violence against non-believers — and the army knew about it. Hasan was in contact with an Iman with known contacts to Al Quaeda. Why? Because the policy since Napolitano has been to announce worries over Christian conservatives with known links to the NRA? Of a rise in militias? After the killing of 13 of our soldiers at Ft. Hood, Janet announces her big worry:
Janet Napolitano says her agency is working with groups across the United States to try to deflect any backlash against American Muslims following Thursday’s rampage by Army Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan
The woman has got it backward. Following Janet’s lead, MSM is looking for any reason for the shootings other than that Hasan was a Muslim terrorist. Only 23% of the initial coverage mentioned that Hasan was Muslim and 93% of the reports failed to call this an act of terrorism, until Obama hinted it might be. So on top of the press willful blindness, it is still the president’s lap dog. Until the fourth estate, MSM wing, stops carrying water for the Democrat party the hyper-PC foolishness will continue and Americans will continue to die.
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November 12th, 2009 @ 10:25 am
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2009/11/backlash-in-california-muslim-at-mall-kiosk-tears-crucifix-from-shoppers-neck-shouts-allah-is-power.html
check this one out
November 12th, 2009 @ 10:25 am
FACT – Crazy-ass Muslim fanatics have killed THOUSANDS of Americans in our own country. All in the name of the “Religion of Peace”. Christian fanatics should be the least of DHS’ worries.
November 12th, 2009 @ 2:49 pm
Guys,, there are two opinion pieces in the Loudoun Times for everyone’s perusal. They’re very well put, and they difuse anti-muslim sentiment for all but the most bigoted among us.
November 12th, 2009 @ 3:04 pm
BM,
Went to the Loudon Times web site:
http://www.loudountimes.com/news/opinion/
Found nothing in there about Muslims. Nimby’s yes. People not voting, and the US flag too. Provide a link please, — the pieces you are talking about do not appear to be opinion pieces at the Loudon Times in the opinion section.
November 12th, 2009 @ 3:44 pm
jacob, search for “Muslim”.
November 12th, 2009 @ 5:56 pm
Monk,
Having read these opinions, I felt they were basically just more of the same. We condemn the act, Islam is a religion of peace.
Do you ever wonder why the act is always condemned, but never the actor ?
November 12th, 2009 @ 6:24 pm
I felt the same way about the letters Dan. In particular the second letter that inclined that Hasan may have just gone crazy, perhaps due to harrassment. It was an unnecessary comment.
November 12th, 2009 @ 8:25 pm
The first letter offered condolences to the victims and their families and recognized the role the soldiers play in protecting the constitution. Kudos for finding it Monk.
The second letter blamed the victim. If Hasan was Christian, and his name was Bobby-Jo the Media would blame all of Christianity, and Monk would be leading the Charge against the Whackos. The second letter was crap, and it tells us more about Monk than anything else that he would recommend it … he still has his head up his back end.
November 12th, 2009 @ 9:25 pm
Why does it tell you more about me?? You read it too, so you must be guilty by that very act.
Where the hell do you get your assumption, peckerwood? I merely read it and directed attention to it. I NEVEr indicated that I worshipped at it.
And you wonder why some think you are a humorless bigot with an axe to grind. I began to believe that you just might be one, after this read based on how you felt I believed.
November 12th, 2009 @ 11:12 pm
“novatownhall blog: updated, and a little more mellow”
ROFL
November 13th, 2009 @ 2:20 am
Monk, I think we’ve gotten into this discussion before. You know where I stand personally on this issue, since I previously explained my own life experiences living among and working side by side with Muslims.
Tolerance is a somewhat strange thing. It can be preached in quiet times quite easily; but, when the going gets tough, when innocent blood flows, when people are badly hurt and become angry, the preaching of tolerance often falls on fallow ground. It takes every bit of strength we have within us to refrain from leaving the good and falling into the dark side of extreme anger and thirst for revenge. Sometimes we just cannot help but strike out blindly. It is human nature. Always has been.
I try my utmost to practice tolerance, and I have plenty of personal reasons for doing so. But, I always have to ask myself if I could succeed in that battle if the losses had touched me even more than they did — if, for instance, I had lost a son or daughter in the Twin Towers or on Pan Am 103 or at Fort Hood. I lost friends in that way, and that hurt quite enough. I cannot vouch for my feelings if something like that hit me much closer to home. Death on the battlefield I can take. Death for no reason I cannot.
And, quite frankly, I think many Americans have reached a point where they are susceptible to a transference of that anger and thirst for revenge, even if they themselves did not suffer a personal loss. Indeed, the speed and clarity of modern communications sometimes serves to make every loss almost personal, for we see pictures of the dead and wounded and fear that someone we love could be next. We see our own kind being cut down for no other reason than that they lived and were themselves. This fear never seems to end. It erodes the good side of our nature and bolsters the dark side, even when we fight as hard as we can to not let that happen.
Monk, you can preach tolerance to Americans as much as you want and you will be absolutely right in your cause. But the time has come for the other side to realize that they do, indeed, have a part in all this and that someone, somehow had better stop this senseless loss of life. They may not have done the deed themselves and they may never have even contemplated doing the deed. But, when the guy who did do that deed dresses like them, talks their language, and kneels before his God in the same religious edifice as they, eventually a form of moral duty falls upon them which extends far beyond words of solace and assurances of their own personal goodwill. There comes a time when they, as well as those being attacked, have to assume a direct role in ending this horror — for their own sake as well as that of the harmed.
If they do not do this and if those who are hurt begin to leave the good and fall into the dark side, they will no longer be able to claim injustice. There is a point when you also have to take up the struggle to give true tolerance a chance. You cannot be a bystander claiming only innocence and expecting to be protected from revenge if you make no effort to stop the assault on those who suffer. I know that that can sometimes be a fearful undertaking. But they are needed, or we all will lose. And tolerance will be lost most of all.
I have heard some of things I wanted to hear of late from a few imams and a few Muslim leaders, but this chorus must become a crescendo of great magnitude both here and abroad, or I am afraid that tolerance may be in a losing battle.
November 13th, 2009 @ 6:03 am
BM,
You _recommended_ the two letters. Reading them is one thing, recommending is another. The first was good. The second was crap that blamed the victims. I lauded you for the first, and you got what you deserved for the second.
Next time read it more carefully. I noted your _actions_ not intent. If you want to call me a bigot go ahead, I ain’t. Frankly, many consider you to be a bigot as well. I don’t. But I don’t think humorless applies to me at all, I LMAO at you constantly.
November 13th, 2009 @ 8:25 am
I referred you (and the audience) to the letters. I never touted them as the end all.
They were injected into the discussion as fodder. I meant only for them to be disected, which you did. I never ENDORSED them as my personal reflection on the matter.
If you and your merry band here want to maintain a majority in coming elections, you’d best reach out to the Tito Munoz and David Ramadan’s of our party. They’re trying to establish a counter-culture in the ethnic groups that invites the conservative elements of these groups to fight beside us…not against us. You cannot lump all of these elements into one convienant wrapper…lest you overlook those that believe as you do.
Wolve, your point is excellent above. We concur. I want…I NEED …more of these folks to stand up and denounce the attacks by their fellow muslims. But alot of what I’ve seen here by Jacob is parsing words he wants to see in print, and not looking at the overall piece. Kinda like trying to describe how to assemble a product, and shaking your head at the written instructions. It’s sometimes just the way one interprets what is printed….using the reader’s own bias.
November 13th, 2009 @ 8:46 am
BM,
1. ‘They’re very well put, and they difuse anti-muslim sentiment for all but the most bigoted among us’
Sounds like you _are_ touting them.
2. As for you sliding into ‘you’d best reach out Tito Munoz and David Ramadan’s of our party’ That is a read herring BM. If someone is a conservative, I welcome them. It is that simple.
November 13th, 2009 @ 9:22 am
http://www.loudountimes.com/news/2009/nov/10/local-muslim-society-condemns-attacks-offers-condo/
http://www.loudountimes.com/news/2009/nov/10/reporters-notebook-gunman-shot-through-hearts-many/
November 13th, 2009 @ 10:17 am
Jack, thanks for the links. I know I shouldn’t make light of this, but when I saw the first link, I had to go check it out. Couldn’t figure out who the local Muslim society would be offering a condo to.
Anywho … glad to hear ADAMS spoke out on this. Their mosque is pretty much right around the corner from us and so far they’ve seemed like good neighbors.
November 13th, 2009 @ 4:29 pm
I know Jacob and he is not a bigot. I know Monk too and he is one hard working man. I also know David Ramadan and have corresponded with Debbie and Tito Munoz, all 3 are doing important work. I fully admit that our party needs to do a better job of reaching out to minority groups. There are natural alliances that we (as a party) fail to nuture – time and again.
That doesn’t mean that we give into politically correct bull though. If you overlook stmts like “Hasan may have just gone crazy because he was harrassed” then you are putting us all in danger.
Big Picture vs dangerous stmts.
As always, Thanks for your remarks Wolv. They are a pleasure to read on a rainy Friday afternoon.
November 13th, 2009 @ 5:59 pm
Monk, I think we may have moved past the point in which mere denunciations of a violent act are enough to fulfill one’s moral duty. I recently saw a video of an imam who, I believe, is currently at the Dar al-Hijirah Mosque in Great Falls. If one takes him at his word, he said all the right things about Islam being a religion of peace and condemning violence in the name of that religion. It is what all of us want and need to here.
This is 2009. In 2001, the imam at that mosque was Anwar al-Awlaki, the radical jihadist now operating out of the Yemen. In 2001, he was reportedly a preacher of hate and radical action against infidels. Major Hasan was in his congregation, as were several of the 9/11 culprits.
Unless that particular congregation had a 100% turnover in eight years, which I seriously doubt, there are probably many in that mosque who heard the rantings of al-Awlaki or at least knew of his sentiments. It appears to me that the response of those who did not believe in such a theology was inaction. As far as I can see, al-Awlaki split because the Brits put out a criminal warrant for him and he probably feared that the warrant would be honored by us.
So, here you are, a Muslim worshipping in a country where your religion is, in essence, alien or foreign to most of the local culture but where that culture operates under almost unique constitutional laws which guarantee you freedom of religion and freedom of speech. Yet, you hear an imam call for violence against the very people who are your hosts and whose blood has been shed in the past to allow you to worship as you please. And your only response is inaction? In my opinion, that inaction in the face of subsequent violent events makes you bear at least a share of the moral blame in all this.
If I were to sit in a Christian church and the pastor began advocating violence against non-believers, I would be the first to stand up and denounce him. I would then agitate within the congregation for his immediate removal and, if that did not work, leave that church with a great deal of voiciferousness and anger. I would also report this preacher to the appropriate authorities as someone who may incite others to violence. I would not just sit there and shrug my shoulders.
Can you imagine being in a Christian church in a Muslim land (contrary to what you hear about some Arab states, there are places like that) and having a pastor advocate violence against Muslims? That church would last about five minutes before the authorities came for that pastor and you. Yet, in America such reactions are not seen precisely because of our Constitution and our acquired tolerance. How then can a Muslim assume an attitude of inaction when such a thing happens in an America which has, in essence, given him refuge and provided him with the inalienable rights common to us all?
It is definitely time that our own Muslims did more than just denounce a particular act of violence and advocate that such violence does not accurately represent their theology. If they are so adamant that Islam and they are not to blame, then they have to take steps to cleanse those parts of their religious community which should be considered logically as an apostasy of their faith. Just how many innocent deaths are Americans supposed to tolerate before they look at our Muslim bretheren and say: “I hear your denials; but, every time that our people die in such incidents as these, it appears that the evil has come out of someplace in your own midst. When, therefore, are you going to join hands with the rest of us to put an end to it? You cannot expect our tolerance and patience to be infinite if you refuse to help us stop the deaths of our innocents.”
November 13th, 2009 @ 9:53 pm
Well, Wolv…when you put it like that.
We concur. I worked with the Muslims for a number of years, and most of those I worked with aren’t wired like Americans (Read “Cowboys” here). They’re much more timid. It’s a cultural thing.
You and I think they should stand up and denounce those among them who do think that way. They have been raised strictly, and in their country of origin, speaking out against the actions of the radicals was a death sentence.
I’ve tested high for a particular lack of Western Ego-cetric thought patterns, so take that into account when I respond.
November 14th, 2009 @ 12:03 am
Monk, I agree with your reference to the cultural differences. I know very well that of which you speak. But the fact is that they aren’t “over there” anymore. They are here, and we all have a problem together. They’re going to have to shake off the cultural drag from the “old country”, just like many of our ancestors did after stepping off the boat. They are going to have to roll up their sleeves and acquire some courage for action. Otherwise this thing is never going to get resolved peacefully. I (and a lot of other Americans, I suspect) no longer have much tolerance for the old excuse of cultural timidity, although I fully recognize its origins. The cost in human life has become much too high to let anyone slide by with that rationale anymore.
November 14th, 2009 @ 12:22 am
Monk, let me add something to this because you may be among the few who can really understand it. I once worked against a relentless terrorist group which targeted Americans as well as high-ranking personages in their own society. Envision this. A murdered American lying in the street. The average local Joe passes by, sees the carnage, wipes the sweat from his brow, and tries to get out of there before the police might approach him as a possible witness. Fear and horror all mixed into one.
The attitude of that average Joe is this: “They’ve killed an American again. So sad. This is terrible But, thank God, they aren’t after us.” And then he walks on and disappears, along with any possibility that he might provide something of value to the counterterrorist police.
You can understand that attitude when you are in a situation and in a culture like that and you can try to find ways to work around it. But if we continue to buy into a parallel attitude on our home ground, we are going to regret it. Being granted the privilege of living in America carries a set of responsibilities with it, and no one should be let off the hook.
November 14th, 2009 @ 2:59 am
I completely understand.
We need to find a few of the really outspoken (and one’s who’ve embraced their Americanism)usually younger (which goes against the mullah/elder — right off the bat)and help them channel that message back into their communities.
Hoping it will happen of it’s own accord will leave us with shite in one hand, and nothing in the other.
Finding a way forward WITH those who can make a difference is the proper course, here.