Barack Obama has been the best thing that could have happened to the Republican Party in general.
Now, it seems, he has been the one thing that could propel Sarah Palin into the role as a credible candidate for president.
But then a funny thing happened: In November, Mrs. Palin debuted her memoir “Going Rogue” with great sales, which was not a surprise, but also with a luminous and successful press tour, which was. The interviews she gave in promotion for her book (at least the ones that I saw) were much improved from those given during the 2008 presidential campaign. Palin seemed to speak about both herself and national issues with greater verve and confidence.
Other stars are aligning for Palin:
Several of her potential rivals for the 2012 Republican nomination find themselves suddenly, perhaps fatally, compromised by recent events.
Certainly the whole issue of “not ready for prime time” will have been eliminated by next year as it becomes painfully clear to the entire world that we just had a president who was not even ready for daytime soap commercials or Saturday morning cartoons.
Sarah does not have a very high bar to climb. From all appearances, she is exceeding the bar by a long shot.
In the above quote…it should then be noted that currently, Obama’s “character” is left wanting.
He’s bankrupting the next four to five generations, and he still wantsa to raise the debt ceiling to a point where we will have no better than a “D” rating ….and nobody wants to lend money to someone with such lousy credit.
But credit-worthiness is a foreign concept to those who are told that they’re broke…and the response from them is “But I still have checks left!!”
I second Demint, and Sessions – both are excellent and have been very visible lately. I have a feeling Duncan Hunter is out of the picture because we have not seen anything of him since 2008 and I would think anyone positioning themselves to run would already be shouting from the rooftops about what the jackass Democrats are doing.
” I said that every successful black person in this society has had to endure that kind of slander at some point in their lives. ”
Very true, and most of this comes from the black community.
Do you deny that many successful people of African heritage are branded as sell outs by their own race zimzo ?
I have read Clarence Thomas and Thomas Sowell. Here is what Thomas says about the slanders he had to endure from people who doubted his intelligence and competence because of his race just as Joe and others here have cast aspersions on Obama because of his race:
“In his autobiography, “My Grandfather’s Son,” he concedes he was admitted to Yale Law School in part because of his race, but goes on to describe the humiliation of postgraduation interviews with “one high-priced lawyer after another” in which he was “asked pointed questions, unsubtly suggesting that they doubted I was as smart as my grades indicated.” He told ABC News that “once it is assumed that everything you do achieve is because of your race, there is no way out … it is irrebuttable and it is proved to be true. In everything now that someone like me does, there’s a backwash into your whole life … because of race.”"
http://www.newsweek.com/id/161228
Thanks for proving my point Cathymac.
Martin Luther King Jr. was not a Republican. His father Martin Luther King Sr. was a registered Republican (as many blacks were until 1964 when the Republicans nominated Barry Goldwater who opposed the Civil Rights Act). King Sr. became a Democrat in 1960 when Kennedy called his son in prison. After the passage of the Civil Rights Act many southern Democrats who opposed civil right became Republicans and most black Republicans became Democrats.
If Joe were really judging Obama on the content of his character and not the color of his skin, then he wouldn’t have accused him of being “affirmative-actioned” a slur that is only directed at blacks.
As far as September 11 goes, it happened 8 months into Bush’s term. To blame Clinton for something that happened 8 months after he left office is absurd, not to mention the fact that there is plenty of evidence that Bush ignored warnings about Al Qaeda and left us vulnerable to terrorist attack by refocusing resources on Saddam Hussein even before Sept 11.
Zimzo, what you know about terrorism and counterterrorism could fit into the charred underpants of Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, with enough room left over for the bumper of a Ford pickup truck. “Absurd” ought to be your middle name. Every time you touch a keyboard and show us all the example of an Obama supporter, you put another stamp of credibility on Joe’s opinions. Now, go back and do your homework before they decide to hold you back in the eighth grade.
“I believe she was the right person at the wrong time. McCain brought her to the national scene before she had enough experience for the position. Another four years as governor, and she would have been unbeatable.”
Jack is indeed correct. her gravitas would have been augmented by the fact that her State would have weathered Obamanomics better than the lower 48.
Zimzo
I have read Thomas book. Trust me he and Cmac are on the same page. You on the other hand….
“After the passage of the Civil Rights Act many southern Democrats who opposed civil right became Republicans and most black Republicans became Democrats.”
Who pushed the 1964 Civil Rights act? Who did President Johnson go to for votes ? The Republicans that’s who. Subtract the Republican votes and this legislation never passes.
The South at the time had virtually NO Republicans. They did not exist. The horrid history of slavery, and oppression of blacks in America belongs to the Democrat Party. Do you really want to start going down the list of prominent Democrats and their position on Civil Rights from the civil war to the 1960’s ? If I were a Democrat, I would want to change the subject ASAP.
Next, he’ll assure us that Lincoln was a democrat.
Zimzo, Picking 1 or 2 quotes from Thomas is handy when you don’t have a grasp of the man’s ideas and life. Thomas may have benefitted from affirmative action, as did Sowell, but it does not mean they agree with the premise that is “helps” all people. Quite the contrary, if you looked between the ….. and quotes I am sure you’d uncover the truth – if you are looking for it. But you are not.
Good call out G. As Republicans, we need to do a better job defending how our party voted on Civil Rights and slavery and where the Democrats were on these issues. History is a funny thing, it is full of facts. Zimmy didn’t learn them therefore he believes the blogs and hype, sadly there are many leftists like this – facts mean nothing to them.
Democrats initiated the Civil Rights bills and most of the votes in favor of the bills were Democratic votes.
Before 1964 a majority of Republicans supported Civil Rights. In 1964 Republicans nominated Barry Goldwater, a right-wing extremist for President. he voted against the Civil Rights Bill. The conservative wing of the Republican party took over, pushing out the liberal Republican wing. They welcomed southern Democrats who opposed the Civil Rights bill into the Republican party. Most of these racist southern Democrats became Republicans and most blacks who had been Republicans became Democrats. The Republican party to its shame became the anti-Civil Rights party and turned its back on the legacy of Lincoln. This is history. It is fact. But for people who don’t believe that evolution is true, talking about facts is wasted.
Cathymac, my point was that Clarence Thomas has suffered the same kind of race-baiting attacks as Joe leveled at Obama. That is all. I proved my point. Whatever his opinions are on affirmative action or other issues are irrelevant.
Zimzo
What American political party elected a former member of the KKK as the majority Leader in the US Senate ? KKK Byrd ring a bell ?
George Wallace was a Democrat. Bull Conner was a Democrat. Sen Albert Gore Sr
( Al’s pappa ) fought tooth and nail against the the 64 CRA.
How about Sen J. William Fullbright, Bill Clintons racist mentor ? Better yet do some research on, Sen Ernest ( Foghorn Leghorn ) Hollings.
You people might be overlooking something here. If you remember correctly, a guy with less political time in office beat out a woman with NO political office experience for the nomination of the Democrat party. Now if you think Hilly was qualified because she was married to a president then so is Barbara Bush. The only reason that Hopey-Changey got elected was because too many voters wanted to be part of history rather than doing their homework and voting for the best candidate.
Palin has more experience than Hopey-Changey did. If you want to include “community organizer” then I’ll top that with Sarah used to be a guide on moose hunts. And meese EAT acorns! She would do a much better job of hitting the ground running (hte preverbeal learning curve) even with her “lack” of experience of THAT job. And if you look at this realistically, those Hopey-Changey voters that are finally realizing what a stupid thing they did are only upset because he is an empty suit. You don’t think those same “history” voters aren’t waiting in the wings for the next thing which would be a woman president? I most certainly think that the die is cast for this next election.
You’re right about all of them. But you left out Strom Thurmond who became a Republican, Jesse Helms who became a Republican, Trent Lott who became a Republican, and innumerable other racist southern Democrats who became Republicans and continued to oppose Civil Rights and were welcomed for those views, while the other Democrats you mention above changed their minds and became supporters of Civil Rights. And you also don’t seem to know about the “Southern Strategy” where Republicans set out to exploit racism in the south in order to take that section of the country away from Democrats. Look it up if you are unfamiliar with what the “Southern Strategy” is.
Even in 1964 the crats were as usual piling the Civil Rights Bill with crap, for example, unchecked increased immigration, Teddy Chappaquiddick crap.
Anything that he ever devised, introduced or otherwise should have died before him or with him. His sympathy seat at the capitol for over 45 years costs us dearly.
Zimzo, you’ve done a masterful job of leaving out key facts in order to bolster your argument. Here’s what you left out:
1. Goldwater’s previous voting history regarding civil rights legislation and his stated reason for not supporting the Civil Rights Act of 1964.
2. A larger percentage of Republicans in the House and the Senate voted for the Civil Rights Act of 1964 than did Democrats.
http://www.congresslink.org/print_basics_histmats_civilrights64_doc9.htm
http://www.nationalcenter.org/NVDavisBradley1299.html
3. Democrats could have voted for and passed the Civil Rights Act of 1964 all on their own, but they needed Republicans to get it through because not enough Democrats supported it.
4. Al Gore, Sr. & Robert Byrd were just two of the Southern Democrats who voted against the 1964 Civil Rights Act.
The “white southern racists moved to the Republican Party, which forced blacks to move to the Democratic Party” argument works, because it’s polarizing. However, it’s only partially accurate (it leaves out things like class, migration, Democratic propaganda, etc. that account for changes in the voting habits of both blacks and whites). In addition, it allows Democrats to get away with ignoring the very real destructive nature of Democratic policies that have devastated the black community. Blacks knee-jerk voting for Democrats is dangerous for blacks – the black vote is taken for granted and policies are implemented that actually keep the vast majority of blacks in urban and rural America from reaching full potential.
If blacks as a whole looked dispassionately at Palin or Demint vs. Obama or Clinton, and based their vote on who would implement policies that would help to prosper the majority of black Americans (not just keep them contained as the Democrats do), they’d vote for Palin or Demint.
I’m sure that black people appreciate your telling them how stupid they are for supporting Democrats, Rachelfriend. I can’t understand why this strategy hasn’t been more successful. Maybe you aren’t being patronizing enough.
Zimzo, You’ve just been proven wrong and you are still arguing, the sign of a true idiot.
I’ll tell anyone of any race, ethnicity or origin they are stupid for supporting Democrats. Even you Zimmy – “hey, you are stupid for supporting Democrats AND you can’t get your facts straight” – which is probably the reason you support Democrats!
Good luck in 2010 with your weak and irritating comments. Perhaps some light reading on the Civil rights Act is appropriate instead of the usual champagne tonight.
Zimzo, you’re probably going to want to rethink that last comment.
Cathy, Ah but don’t you know: That is WHO HE IS – the white, upper middle class, heterosexual, perpetually aggrieved advocate on behalf of those less fortunate than Zimzo. He cries for the less fortunate, his heart breaks for the less fortunate, and that is why the hair trigger readiness to lash out at anyone who could be even remotely construed to have committed an offense against the less fortunate and the amazing ability to discern prejudice everywhere. Sanctimony, thy name is Zimzo.
Oh, and for the record: You can rest assured the reason Zimzo has be silent around here lately is NOT because he is “bored.” It is because he is mortified. Anyone with half a brain (which, I must concede, Zimzo possesses) who supported Barack Obama now realizes what a horrible mistake that was as the man proves to be totally unfit to serve, and the entire Democrat agenda proves to be abhorrent to the American people. These are bad times to be a liberal.
Can’t wait for Rachelfriend to reply to Zimmy!
One thing that’s so touching about you, Joe, is what an optimist you are. And by optimist I mean someone who does the same thing over and over again and expects a different result. Oh, wait, that’s the definition of insanity.
For the record, I think Obama is doing a great job and he’ll be re-elected in 2012.
” telling them how stupid they are for supporting Democrats,”
I am sure that Americans of African descent have already reached this conclusion without anyone’s help..
“Strom Thurmond who became a Republican”….go ahead and complete that history lesson, zimwit.
He later took one Armstrong Williams under his wing, and created a stark reversal of his previous life. Williams is now one of the staunch conservatives of our time. And if you’re ignorant of the man’s story — he’s a man of color.
Not only did George Orwell foretell the Obama Administration some 20 years before it happened…(okay, the book should have been titled “2008″)…he also has some doozies in wisdom that transpired decades….
“During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.”– George Orwell
More info toward building a case for impeachment:
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/columns/What-is-Barack-Obama-doing_-8700165-80341107.html
zimzo,
The black community has suffered horribly under the corrosive impact of the Johnson great society programs. The rate of bastardy has jumped to 80% from 30%. The murder rate has gone through the roof. The percentage of drug use has gone through the roof as well. ‘Free Money’ is not free. The price is the destruction of societal and familial cohesion. Rachelfriends gets it. You don’t.
The black communities’ leadership is wedded to the racial spoils system. This spoils system requires that the society at large be forever more seen through a prism of racism. Whitey is racist. Whitey will only become non-racist IF he adopts the socialist policies of the Democrat party. That is BS. BS that you are wedded to. Rachelfriend gets it, you don’t.
Rachelfriend,
You are correct. Goldwater voted for earlier pieces of legislation that attempted to addressed the issue of Democrat sponsored Jim Crow laws. Zimzo, as usual, ignores all the inconvenient facts.
It is irrelevant what legislation Goldwater supported before 1964 or his reasons for doing so. (I happen to admire some of Goldwater’s stances such as his support for gay rights.) The point is that after Goldwater opposition to Civil Rights became conservative Republican policy among all the leading proponents of conservatism from William Buckley to Ronald Reagan and it is the reason that racist southern Democrats became Republicans and blacks left the party.
Patronizing comments like “The black communities’ leadership is wedded to the racial spoils system” is probably one reason why blacks are not running to the Republican party in droves. Instead of seeing black people as stupid or greedy for not supporting you, maybe a better strategy would be to look inward and see why the conservative movement has been so welcoming and tolerant of bigots.
“It is irrelevant what legislation Goldwater supported before 1964 or his reasons for doing so.”
The reason is everything. You ascribe racism (shocking!). The reason is that an official spoils system, based on race will Balkanize the country. And it has. The legislation from 64 on was more about redressing wrongs than establishing a meritocracy. Opposition to such legislation is not racism, but support for it IS racism.
Pointing out that Jesse Jackson is a race baiting huckster who is more interested in lining his pockets than in helping his constituency is patronizing? LMAO!!!
As for your facile “Instead of seeing black people as stupid or greedy …” You have got to be kidding. I said neither. Only a bigot construe “Free money is not free” with ‘black people are” Keep the red herrings in your pocket where they belong.
You’re saying now that you’re opposed to the 1964 Civil Rights Act and then you wonder why you can’t persuade black people to become Republicans? Wow.
Zimzo, What is your New Year’s resolution? I have one for you….please, shut up.
People of color are beginning to migrate to the GOP, Zipperhead. As they’ve begun to climb social ladders because they become doctors and lawyers, they leave the shackles of the Dem Party and walk towards the Capitalistic light of the Republicans— who reward them for rising above stereotypes and canned idiocracy.
Another crushing blow will be when the Hispanics do the same thing.
zimbat,
not 64, but a lot of the crap that followed.
zimbat,
I also love how you have no answer for anything I wrote. the best you got is another red herring. LMAO!
When we pass from this earth, we will have a moment of reflection. I just hope we can all say we were not vindictive butt-heads