I watched it and saw a draw. McCain missed several opportunities to score on the economic front in the beginning and that is huge. Obama’s risible “95% of the public will not see a tax increase” is false. First of all, the bottom 40% of income earners pay no federal income tax. This is redistribution of wealth pure and simple. Face it, the people pay the “rich guys‘” taxes anyway. The extra cost is added to the price of the product, then paid for by the suckers, a.k.a the electorate.
The other shoe is the increase in tax rates on investment income, which will impact everyone who has a 401(k), not just those making over $250k per year. In case you are wondering, over fifty million Americans have 401(k)’s. If investment income tax rates are increased, the entire market will be depressed. Obama makes the classic liberal mistake of treating investment income the same as wages. Such a tax increase would lead to a decrease in investment in our domestic economy, a flight of foreign investment, and an acceleration of corporate flight overseas. The end result would be a smaller 401(k) portfolio.
Why McCain did not address this during the debate is a mystery.
Obama spent the next 5-6 foreign policy questions getting a scolded by McCain on his gross naivete, and rightly so. Nobody expected otherwise, except for the fact that one round of economics in this climate balances five rounds of foreign policy. The sad thing is that Obama, while pummeled in this arena, did not appear to learn a damned thing.
Here are some polls regarding the outcome of the debate:
At PolitikerWA:
A Survey USA poll conducted after tonight’s presidential debate found that Washingtonians are nearly split on who won. Forty percent said McCain won while 38 percent said Obama.
According to CNN: Obama 51, Mcain 38. This was reported in paragraph two; in the second to last paragraph of the article, one reads this:
The results may be favoring Obama simply because more Democrats than Republicans tuned in to the debate. Of the debate-watchers questioned in this poll, 41 percent of the respondents identified themselves as Democrats, 27 percent as Republicans and 30 percent as independents.
Oh well. One day CNN might finally ‘get it’. Over at the Drudge Report, on 9/27/08 at 10 a.m., based on a sample size of 272,471 the results are:
McCain 67, Obama31.
I wonder what the sample percentages (Democrat v. Republican v. Independent) are here.
At the Kansas City Star, George Harris sites the MSNBC, CBS, CNN and Insider Advantage polls are reported. The MSNBC, CBS and IA polls are shown below, the CNN poll was discussed above.
CBS Insta Poll shows Barack Obama won 39% to John McCain’s 25% with 36% saying the debate was a draw.
Insider Advantage reports those polled Obama won 42% to McCain’s 41% with Undecided 17%
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The MSNBC on-line (non-scientific) poll showed Obama winning the debate 52% to 33%. (But this is what one would expect from such a poll at MSNBC because of the nature of its viewers.)
A sample size tally and sample breakdown would be helpful here. The author of the article did not bother to provide insight in this regard, instead Harris was interested in further ripping into McCain.
The FoxNews text message poll taken last night of the debate showed:
McCain won 84 to Obama’s 16.
This was based on a sample size of 20K+. Again it was unscientific as it did not check the mix of voters. The poll taken on the Fox News site shows:
McCain won 51 to Obama’s 49.
This is a tie. At the site Townhall.com the poll shows:
McCain won 70 to Obama’s 21.
This site is heavily republican, It does not even provide a sample size. At the Mercury Newsin silicon valley
Obama won 69 to McCain’s 24.
based on a sample size of 1644. The disparate result only confirm my suspicion that the pols have become opinions formers, not opinion measurements. How to undo this sad result is beyond me. We are a nation of people with many news venues to choose from. The news is biased depending on where you go, the degree of bias at each venue can be debated. The end result is we sit in echo chambers of our choosing.
Lehrer allowed the two candidates to mix it and that made it one of the better debates in recent memory. Both candidates tried to talk over each other, interestingly despite McCain’s reputation for having a temper, it was Obama who appeared more agitated, with McCain taking the role of gad-fly. Kudos to Lehrer for allowing this meeting to actually become a true debate. It would serve the county well if others took Lehrer’s example to heart.
The end result was Obama survived, that is all he needed to do. I am predicting an Obama presidency at this point. The winds are blowing in his direction, McCain missed a big chance to go after Obama and land a real blow. I plan to get numb November 4th and stay that way for several years.